rec.autos.simulators

Jeff

Andre

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 09:27:38 -0500, Jeffrey Haas

I regularly try the demos of the more arcade type racing games and this
gives you a real appreciation for the sims that most of us play day in day
out.  The fact of the matter is that F1 2000 is an excellent simulation.  It
is also a very fun game.  No, it is not the best game out there but I think
it is absolutely a winner.

I've seen an lot of people here say they aren't going to buy it.  Well
that's all fine, but how on earth do you expect game companies to keep
releasing racing sims when even the most hard-core of sim racers will not
buy it?  Maybe we all need to get off our high-horse for a while, step back
and look at exactly what ISI and EA are giving us.  Instead of a flood of
emails to EA complaining about the game, perhaps we should all tell them how
great it is and how many more people would buy it if they released a patch
that fixed x, y and z....  Just a thought...

Cheers,
...Colin

Kinda makes you wonder if any of the guys here are married or have
partners I mean to apply the GPL logic, If she Is'nt the best looking,
smartest, best cook, best at ironing and best in the sack well,
she's going right back to the shop : )

Regards Mike

Ps My wife is all of the above : )

I personally enjoyed more softwares like Viper Racing, SBK2k/GP500 and Rally
Championship 2000 to EA's attempt of a Formula 1 simulator.  It has it's
good moment, but a little too much disadvantages to please myself.  I can
see the attraction for many to F1 2000.  But I personally never saw this
newsgroup of a "the sim I like is better than the sim you like".  The only
time some people stop being informative is to either make a troll comment or
a joke.  Obviously the majority of the messages by all compare in the most
neutral possible way the differences so that people can 1) discuss and 2)
help other people who are willing to listen and read those messages.  But
since GPL is agreed by the majority as the reference in racing simulators,
titles that categorise themselves as "racing simulators" will be compared in
terms of gameplay, game engine, sound, graphics, AI, etc.. to GPL.  It is
necessary for many to create some sort of hierarchy of software.  I bet we
all mentally have one.

I said my point enough about F1 2k, but I'll continue to voice my opinion to
create discussion.  There is nothing wrong with that, personally.  The bad
track modelling clearly killed any love for this game, and it's a darn shame
by ISI.  I could live with simple sounds, or simple AI as I like to hotlap
alone, and for the game engine I can enjoy titles that have limited physics
calculation (sorry, I should say more "normal" physics calculation as it's
clearly in the average).  But not a combination of bad tracks/normal
physics, especially after the hype it suffered from press release and
newsgroup messages.

Good arguments by all sides, good discussions.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...
-- http://www.WeRace.net
-- People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world.

Arthur
Stealth Racing
http://www.***sys.com/stealthracing.html

Is it just the evil inclinations of a bunch of fanatics?  Or, is there
something in GPL that has fostered something beyond the usual ( I assume its
usual anyway) cyclical trajectory of newsgroup obsessions?

--DK

PS  I mean this to be a serious query; I'll even rephrase it as a new
thread.

PS. GP3 looks like it could be a winner, but it's no GPL. :-O

Can't you read between the lines? :-)

You don't have to use much of your imagination to see GPL fans
plugging their sim at the expense of discounting the legitimate
positive points of others' sims on this forum.  

In many ways, I'm glad it's (RC2000 and SBK2000 as well) "no GPL".

David G Fisher

Andre

On Wed, 22 Mar 2000 23:04:55 -0600, "David Karr"

Arthur,

Sorry for the name misspelling. I plan on picking this
sim up and looking forward to the future.

Jeff

David G Fisher

Art