rec.autos.simulators

by **rob** » Tue, 03 Nov 1998 04:00:00

I don't think the p2 350 uses a 100 mhz bus; seems like that was
what made the jump to 400 larger than normal.
I expect to be corrected if I'm wrong.

rob.

>>Path:
>>You don't happen to remember anything about the subject headers or
keywords
>>in these posts do you? Last night I spent like 15 minutes on deja news
>>searching this group and couldn't come up with anything.

>>Anyway, this ticks me off because UBISoft says they won't do anything
about
>>it since my system is overclocked. But I'm betting it does the same thing
>>on true P2 450s, or any CPU with the 100MHz bus for that matter. I just
>>need to verify that so I can get back with their tech support and tell
them.

>Not true. I'm running on a P2-350, no problems.

>Z.

by **Jarrod Smit** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Do you have problems with the internal game clock running 33% too fast
(100MHz bus vs 66MHz bus)? I'm having trouble with my Celeron 450a. This
game runs 33% too fast when I have the bus clocked at 100MHz. If you time
the lap clock, you will see that 1 minute of game time is 40 seconds real
time. This makes it a real *** to drive! It runs normal when I have the
chip running at 300. I'm wondering if people with true P2 450s are having
the same trouble. What the heck is the game timing itself to? I have my
motherboard set as if there were a real P2 450 in there, but F1RS gets
confused.

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The Scripps Research Institute
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~jsmith

by **Greg Cisk** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Several months ago there were posts about your exact complaint.
I don't think there ever was a resolution to the problem either. I am
just glad I have a lowly P5-200MMX as the game runs perfect :-)

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>Do you have problems with the internal game clock running 33% too fast
>(100MHz bus vs 66MHz bus)? I'm having trouble with my Celeron 450a. This
>game runs 33% too fast when I have the bus clocked at 100MHz. If you time
>the lap clock, you will see that 1 minute of game time is 40 seconds real
>time. This makes it a real *** to drive! It runs normal when I have the
>chip running at 300. I'm wondering if people with true P2 450s are having
>the same trouble. What the heck is the game timing itself to? I have my
>motherboard set as if there were a real P2 450 in there, but F1RS gets
>confused.

>--
>Jarrod Smith
>The Scripps Research Institute
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/~jsmith

by **Jarrod Smit** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

You don't happen to remember anything about the subject headers or keywords
in these posts do you? Last night I spent like 15 minutes on deja news
searching this group and couldn't come up with anything.

Anyway, this ticks me off because UBISoft says they won't do anything about
it since my system is overclocked. But I'm betting it does the same thing
on true P2 450s, or any CPU with the 100MHz bus for that matter. I just
need to verify that so I can get back with their tech support and tell them.

Thanks. You lucky dog with the P200 MMX ;-)

Jarrod Smith
The Scripps Research Institute
http://www.scripps.edu/~jsmith

>Several months ago there were posts about your exact complaint.
>I don't think there ever was a resolution to the problem either. I am
>just glad I have a lowly P5-200MMX as the game runs perfect :-)

by **Jarrod Smit** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

>You don't happen to remember anything about the subject headers or keywords
>in these posts do you? Last night I spent like 15 minutes on deja news
>searching this group and couldn't come up with anything.

I found it. The "keystone cops" thread, right? This is terrible. Ubisoft
must fix this or their game will be unplayable on newer PCs.

Jarrod Smith
The Scripps Research Institute
http://www.scripps.edu/~jsmith

by **Jarrod Smit** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Please elaborate. What version F1RS are you running? What motherboard are
you using? I'd really like to get this game running. Help please!

Jarrod Smith
The Scripps Research Institute
http://www.scripps.edu/~jsmith

>Tested it on a 450 and a Celeron 300a at 450--runs fine (normal speed) on
>both.

>Marc.

by **Jarrod Smit** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Thanks to all who responded. It turns out to be something very stupid that
Ubisoft tech support should have been well aware of, but wasn't for some
reason. The problem turned out to be the sync on vertical refresh setting
in my voodoo2 driver control panel. I had disabled it, and this caused the
clock in F1RS to coincidentally run 33% faster than real time. With vsync
on, game time runs spot-on what it should. Combined with the response I got
from Ubisoft blaming my overclocked computer (66->100 = 33%), I was
incorrectly making a connection between the two things. Running the chip at
300 slowed the machine down enough to where the problem didn't appear
(another coincidence).

Back to racing :-)

Jarrod Smith
The Scripps Research Institute
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~jsmith

>Do you have problems with the internal game clock running 33% too fast
>(100MHz bus vs 66MHz bus)? I'm having trouble with my Celeron 450a. This
>game runs 33% too fast when I have the bus clocked at 100MHz. If you time
>the lap clock, you will see that 1 minute of game time is 40 seconds real
>time. This makes it a real *** to drive! It runs normal when I have the
>chip running at 300. I'm wondering if people with true P2 450s are having
>the same trouble. What the heck is the game timing itself to? I have my
>motherboard set as if there were a real P2 450 in there, but F1RS gets
>confused.

>--
>Jarrod Smith
>The Scripps Research Institute
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/~jsmith

by **Marc Collin** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Tested it on a 450 and a Celeron 300a at 450--runs fine (normal speed) on
both.

Marc.

>Do you have problems with the internal game clock running 33% too fast
>(100MHz bus vs 66MHz bus)? I'm having trouble with my Celeron 450a. This
>game runs 33% too fast when I have the bus clocked at 100MHz. If you time
>the lap clock, you will see that 1 minute of game time is 40 seconds real
>time. This makes it a real *** to drive! It runs normal when I have the
>chip running at 300. I'm wondering if people with true P2 450s are having
>the same trouble. What the heck is the game timing itself to? I have my
>motherboard set as if there were a real P2 450 in there, but F1RS gets
>confused.

>--
>Jarrod Smith
>The Scripps Research Institute
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/~jsmith

by **Daniel H Laurin** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

My system is a Abit BH6 with a Celeron 300a overclocked to 450Mhz. I'm
using a 100Mhz busspeed but I've got the PCI bus set to 33Mhz. The timing
is perfect. Game runs smoothly. Only problem is it defaulted to installing
for my 3Dfx card. I'd like to try it with my G200. A true 100Mhz busspeed
system runs with the memory bus at 100Mhz, the AGP bus at 66Mhz and the PCI
bus at 33Mhz. For the Abit you need to set this in the processer setup
screen by picking 2/3rds as the ratio. On other motherboards you need to
tape pin B21 as described on Tom's Hardware page. Don't know if you are
overclocking the PCI bus or if that is your problem. Just know, I am
not...and it works here.

>Do you have problems with the internal game clock running 33% too fast
>(100MHz bus vs 66MHz bus)? I'm having trouble with my Celeron 450a. This
>game runs 33% too fast when I have the bus clocked at 100MHz. If you time
>the lap clock, you will see that 1 minute of game time is 40 seconds real
>time

by **Zonk** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

>Path:
>You don't happen to remember anything about the subject headers or keywords
>in these posts do you? Last night I spent like 15 minutes on deja news
>searching this group and couldn't come up with anything.

>Anyway, this ticks me off because UBISoft says they won't do anything about
>it since my system is overclocked. But I'm betting it does the same thing
>on true P2 450s, or any CPU with the 100MHz bus for that matter. I just
>need to verify that so I can get back with their tech support and tell them.

Not true. I'm running on a P2-350, no problems.

Z.

by **Greg Cisk** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Yes that sounds like the right thread.

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>>You don't happen to remember anything about the subject headers or
keywords
>>in these posts do you? Last night I spent like 15 minutes on deja news
>>searching this group and couldn't come up with anything.

>I found it. The "keystone cops" thread, right? This is terrible. Ubisoft
>must fix this or their game will be unplayable on newer PCs.

>Jarrod Smith
>The Scripps Research Institute
>http://www.scripps.edu/~jsmith

by **Greg Cisk** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

>Thanks to all who responded. It turns out to be something very stupid that
>Ubisoft tech support should have been well aware of, but wasn't for some
>reason. The problem turned out to be the sync on vertical refresh setting
>in my voodoo2 driver control panel. I had disabled it, and this caused the

Wow! Cool glad you found the answer!!!!! I'll be saving this message
incase I upgrade :-)

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by **Jeff Vince** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Can't help you, but, that's a 50% (not 33%) speed increase that
you're talking about. Sorry, pet peeve (hey, at least I'm not
correcting your spelling and grammar :).

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by **Marc Collin** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

v 1.09 on an Asus and a Abit mother board. Obviously, there is something
not quite right with your system...but, of course, that is true of 99% of
the problems raised here...

Marc.

>Please elaborate. What version F1RS are you running? What motherboard are
>you using? I'd really like to get this game running. Help please!

>Jarrod Smith
>The Scripps Research Institute
>http://www.scripps.edu/~jsmith

>>Tested it on a 450 and a Celeron 300a at 450--runs fine (normal speed) on
>>both.

>>Marc.

by **Jarrod Smit** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Right you are. How about this: Real time is 33% slower than F1RS time? :-)

In case you didn't see the resolution to this problem, make sure you have
vsync turned on in your voodoo drivers, folks. Otherwise trading ghost laps
is pretty much a farce!

Jarrod Smith
The Scripps Research Institute
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~jsmith

>>Do you have problems with the internal game clock running 33% too fast
>>(100MHz bus vs 66MHz bus)? I'm having trouble with my Celeron 450a. This
>>game runs 33% too fast when I have the bus clocked at 100MHz. If you time
>>the lap clock, you will see that 1 minute of game time is 40 seconds real
>>time. This makes it a real *** to drive! It runs normal when I have
the
>>chip running at 300. I'm wondering if people with true P2 450s are having
>>the same trouble. What the heck is the game timing itself to? I have my
>>motherboard set as if there were a real P2 450 in there, but F1RS gets
>>confused.

> Can't help you, but, that's a 50% (not 33%) speed increase that
>you're talking about. Sorry, pet peeve (hey, at least I'm not
>correcting your spelling and grammar :).

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