No offence, but he must be ancient if that's true...
I didn't see anybody claiming that this was a _bad_ idea of his. I
simply don't think it would work, as it would get in the way on
multiplayer races. I have explained why this is so in a previous
message.
The Excelsior
"ICQ #40620378"
>>No insult intended, but do you have a problem with quoting? Your
>>messages are FILLED with "" and "" in places where they shouldn't
>>be...
>>The Excelsior
>>"ICQ #40620378"
>Sorry about that.......I tend to use "quotes" more in newsgroup posts where
>the use of HTML rich text is discouraged......and therefore there's a lack
>of tools to highlight or emphasize words. When I use a "quotation" around a
>word it's meant to emphasize the word....or the point. I could use *star*
>marks as well.....which I've seen done quite often. I agree with you
>though, the "quotes" tend to be *distracting* for the eyes....I'll try to
>change that bad habit. Thank you for the feedback.
I was simply curious as to why you did it.
Thanks for explaining!
The Excelsior
"ICQ #40620378"
Of course it is. But those cars were 'designed' to have brake light,
and so everybody will be expecting them, including multiplayers.
The Excelsior
"ICQ #40620378"
;-)
Keep em' coming!
The Excelsior
"ICQ #40620378"
Nascar Racing 1 and 2 are for you then. Constant updates on everything
from engine temperate, revs per minute, tyre compound and temperature,
etc.
The Excelsior
"ICQ #40620378"
Good question. Anybody?
The Excelsior
"ICQ #40620378"
The only way I could see this working is if it _only_ effected your
computer, and nobody elses, so that you could see brake lights on
other peoples cars, but they wouldn't also be forced to see the lights
on anybody elses.
I don't see how this could work however without every body having the
same patch, otherwise you wouldn't be able to get info on when a
driver is braking.
The Excelsior
"ICQ #40620378"
You would, others wouldn't. Personally I think it's an awful idea, but
then I don't have any problem with depth perception or knowing how far
behind I am or what my closure speed is. If you don't know when the
guy in front of you starts braking for the corner and you run up his
chuff it's not because of depth perception, it's because you didn't
err on the side of caution as drivers IRL have to. Getting a gearbox
in the face will tend to be a strong reminder.
Adding a brake light will only allow additional information for the
guy behind to make the pass, waiting until the person in front brakes
before committing (particularly true for those driving in arcade view,
where they can see the brake lights while alongside).
In any case, think about the issues of latency, differing braking
ability & reaction time from seeing brake lights. Do you really think
that if you were following me and I jumped on the brakes you would be
able to react in time? Not only in time, but under control? Not a
chance. If you were far enough back to react you'd be far enough back
to avoid me anyway.
The problem which causes these shunts is lack of race awareness and
lack of respect for other drivers, not a lack of information on what
others are doing. There are certain drivers with whom I will happily
_race_, brake-testing them, running close, side-by-side through
corners etc, because I know they expect and allow for these things.
Also if I get it wrong and brake too late I will spin the car rather
than slide into them - that's my mistake. OTOH there are drivers, many
of them very fast drivers, where as soon as they appear in my mirrors
I'm resigned to a trip into the wall.
If people want to avoid accidents, avoid contact. Practice braking
offline into corners, know the braking points from either side of the
track, accept that if you brake too late you should try to avoid an
accident first and foremost, even if it does mean your quarry escapes.
Brake lights could be possible, may be an idea but in no way will
solve the issues put forward here. They'll be another racing tactic
and we'll be back to wondering why people always have T1 pile ups.
Cheers!
John
Michael got out of his car in the pit line and tried to start a fight
in the garage! Typical that my video recorder cut out just minutes
before hand...
The Excelsior
"ICQ #40620378"
It had the commentators confused for a while, until they figured that
obviously the car in front wasn't flooring it, so that at precisely
the right moment he would still have power behind him.
It made for an exciting race!
Shame we don't get more of Nascar in this country.
The Excelsior
"ICQ #40620378"
The Excelsior
"ICQ #40620378"
Mark
> >Anyone who stuck their hand up to get someone out of the draft would
> >likely end up with a sore face in the pits - that is a VERY dangerous
> >thing to do. Brake testing, lifting etc is dangerous but an accepted
> >part of racing,
> Didn't one of the McLarens do this about a year ago (possibly a litte
> longer), in F1, and caused M. Shumacker to smash into the back of him,
> taking of the Ferrari's right front wheel?
> Michael got out of his car in the pit line and tried to start a fight
> in the garage! Typical that my video recorder cut out just minutes
> before hand...
> The Excelsior
> "ICQ #40620378"
>>When you, or any of the others, can match Tom's credentials let us know.
>>Until then, work on disagreeing in a more courteous manner and in a manner
>>that better reflects your expertise relative to Tom's.
>>Jack Rambo
>>www.RaceLive.com/GPaL
Nicely said,and well thought out.
Joel Willstein
