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by **Donald R. Chapm** » Sun, 06 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Originally released in 1966, "Grand Prix" really does capture the
glamour era of F1. It won 3 Academy awards and has some of the best
racing footage I have ever seen on film(much more authentic than Days
of Thunder). It is 3 hours long and follows fictional drivers thru a
full season of F1. Some of it gets a little cheesy, but overall it is
well worth a rent, or a buy. After watching this movie, I can't wait
to drive Grand Prix Legends against the likes of Jimmy Clark, Graham
Hill, Jackie Stewart, and Dan Gurney. I hope there is banking at
Monza.

Don Chapman

by **Tom Cosgrav** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

> After watching this movie, I can't wait
> to drive Grand Prix Legends against the likes of Jimmy Clark, Graham
> Hill, Jackie Stewart, and Dan Gurney. I hope there is banking at
> Monza.

I loved the bit where the Ferrari fell through the tree at Monza and
deposited the driver in the tree, after that he died - it's funny, but
is that true to life?

by **Allan F** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

>Originally released in 1966, "Grand Prix" really does capture the
>glamour era of F1. It won 3 Academy awards and has some of the best
>racing footage I have ever seen on film(much more authentic than Days
>of Thunder). It is 3 hours long and follows fictional drivers thru a
>full season of F1. Some of it gets a little cheesy, but overall it is
>well worth a rent, or a buy. After watching this movie, I can't wait
>to drive Grand Prix Legends against the likes of Jimmy Clark, Graham
>Hill, Jackie Stewart, and Dan Gurney. I hope there is banking at
>Monza.

>Don Chapman

For the best racing footage of all time, you have to watch Steve
McQueen in LeMans. Not much of a story line or dialogue but lots of
authentic racing action.
-Al

by **SimRaci** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

Amen. Whenever I think of fast cars or racing, I can't help but think
of McQueen and LeMans and Bullet. I really miss that guy.

Best Regards,

Marc

Marc J. Nelson
Sim Racing News - USA / Sim Racing Online / The Sim Project / iRACE

by **Alan He** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

<snip>
well worth a rent, or a buy. After watching this movie, I can't wait
I don't think there will be banking at Monza if it is based on the '67
season (as seems likely). The track was in a similar configuration to
the one used today, although without the chicanes.

Alan Head

Screamer 2 homepages:
http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm
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Grand Prix Legends (from Papyrus) page
http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/gpl/gpl.htm
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by **Alan He** » Mon, 07 Apr 1997 05:00:00

>> After watching this movie, I can't wait
>> to drive Grand Prix Legends against the likes of Jimmy Clark, Graham
>> Hill, Jackie Stewart, and Dan Gurney. I hope there is banking at
>> Monza.

>I loved the bit where the Ferrari fell through the tree at Monza and
>deposited the driver in the tree, after that he died - it's funny, but
>is that true to life?

I don't think that's particularly funny, but it is sorta true to life.
The inspiration for this incident in the film probably comes from the
death of the Ferrari driver Wolfgang von Trips in the (I think) 1961
race at Monza. von Trips was leading the championship when he crashed
out at the Parabolica corner (on the flat circuit), killing himself
and several spectators. Phil Hill went on to win the championship as a
result, just like Garner's character in the movie

Alan Head

Screamer 2 homepages:
http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm
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Grand Prix Legends (from Papyrus) page
http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/gpl/gpl.htm
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by **Bruce Kennewel** » Tue, 08 Apr 1997 04:00:00

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Pretty close, Tom. there was a Ferrari driver killed at that curve when
his car went over the embankment. Whether he actually flew out of it and
through a tree, I don't know.
--

Bruce #31
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by **Mark E. Moone** » Tue, 08 Apr 1997 04:00:00

> I don't think that's particularly funny, but it is sorta true to life.
> The inspiration for this incident in the film probably comes from the
> death of the Ferrari driver Wolfgang von Trips in the (I think) 1961
> race at Monza. von Trips was leading the championship when he crashed
> out at the Parabolica corner (on the flat circuit), killing himself
> and several spectators. Phil Hill went on to win the championship as a
> result, just like Garner's character in the movie

> Alan Head

Von Trips got tangled up with Jim Clarke, and did a bunch of end over
ends into the crowd. It was not unusual for drivers to be thrown from
the car at all. Nomex didn't come along until like the middle of '68.

Mark Mooney

by **Number** » Wed, 09 Apr 1997 04:00:00

>> I don't think that's particularly funny, but it is sorta true to life.
>> The inspiration for this incident in the film probably comes from the
>> death of the Ferrari driver Wolfgang von Trips in the (I think) 1961
>> race at Monza. von Trips was leading the championship when he crashed
>> out at the Parabolica corner (on the flat circuit), killing himself
>> and several spectators. Phil Hill went on to win the championship as a
>> result, just like Garner's character in the movie

>> Alan Head

>Von Trips got tangled up with Jim Clarke, and did a bunch of end over
>ends into the crowd. It was not unusual for drivers to be thrown from
>the car at all. Nomex didn't come along until like the middle of '68.
>Mark Mooney

As I recall, there was also a driver to go out of the banking, and be
killed, just like the Yves Montland character in the film. For the
life of me, I cannot remember the drivers name. If I recall
correctly, it was similar to that of the character Montland played in
the film.
But I could be mistaken.

Brandon Reed

by **Mark E. Moone** » Thu, 10 Apr 1997 04:00:00

> >> I don't think that's particularly funny, but it is sorta true to life.
> >> The inspiration for this incident in the film probably comes from the
> >> death of the Ferrari driver Wolfgang von Trips in the (I think) 1961
> >> race at Monza. von Trips was leading the championship when he crashed
> >> out at the Parabolica corner (on the flat circuit), killing himself
> >> and several spectators. Phil Hill went on to win the championship as a
> >> result, just like Garner's character in the movie

> >> Alan Head

> >Von Trips got tangled up with Jim Clarke, and did a bunch of end over
> >ends into the crowd. It was not unusual for drivers to be thrown from
> >the car at all. Nomex didn't come along until like the middle of '68.

> >Mark Mooney

> As I recall, there was also a driver to go out of the banking, and be
> killed, just like the Yves Montland character in the film. For the
> life of me, I cannot remember the drivers name. If I recall
> correctly, it was similar to that of the character Montland played in
> the film.
> But I could be mistaken.

> Brandon Reed

Question is, are we getting the banking in the sim?
I checked a couple of books at home, and one of em, RennSport, the
annual, shows the banking and the rest of the track on the track map, as
if they ran both in '67. I was also thrilled to see the 14.2 mi fill
Nurburgring was one of the 11 tracks in '67.

Moon

by **HORB** » Fri, 11 Apr 1997 04:00:00

In 67 Monza had no more banking. The track looked similiar to the one we have today. But there should be the old long Nurburgring in the sim. I wonder how Papy will manage this.

Klaus Hoerbrand
Germany

by **Alan He** » Fri, 11 Apr 1997 04:00:00

On Wed, 09 Apr 1997 09:10:31 -0700, "Mark E. Mooney"

<snip>
Nope, no banking in the sim if it is true to the '67 championship. The
track used in 67 was almost identical to the one used today with the
exception of all those annoying little chicanes! As a result, it still
holds the record for the fastest (highest average speed) GP ever run
(early 1970s race, I forget which year). On the subject of tracks, the
great thing is that it should also include a 14km Spa-Francorchamps, a
flat-out version of Silverstone, and Mosport in Canada (apparently a
terrifyingly good track according to some Canadian friends of mine)

Alan Head

Screamer 2 homepages:
http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/games.htm
-----------------------------------------
Grand Prix Legends (from Papyrus) page
http://www.feature.demon.co.uk/gpl/gpl.htm
__________________________________________

by **Ferdinand Trauttmansdor** » Sun, 13 Apr 1997 04:00:00

> On the subject of tracks, the great thing is that it should also
> include a 14km Spa-Francorchamps, a flat-out version of
> Silverstone, and Mosport in Canada (apparently a terrifyingly
> good track according to some Canadian friends of mine)

>Alan Head

Corner Two at Mosport is often [and rightfully] listed amongst the
top-ten most challenging turns in the world, along with other
favourites like Eau-Rouge at Spa and The CorkScrew at Laguna Seca.

-Ferdinand-

by **ymenar** » Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:00:00

> Nope, no banking in the sim if it is true to the '67 championship. The
> track used in 67 was almost identical to the one used today with the
> exception of all those annoying little chicanes! As a result, it still
> holds the record for the fastest (highest average speed) GP ever run
> (early 1970s race, I forget which year). On the subject of tracks, the
> great thing is that it should also include a 14km Spa-Francorchamps, a
> flat-out version of Silverstone, and Mosport in Canada (apparently a
> terrifyingly good track according to some Canadian friends of mine)

Yep Mosport IS a really great track. But F1 went out of there (AFAIK)
because it was not safe. So they went to Mt-Tremblant after (F1) which
wasn't safe so now it's at Montreal (Circuit Gilles Villeneuve). And
also I have two 1966 books. And there are awesome. One is from
Giancarlo Baghetti (a great driver) and the other is from Piero Taruffi
AND Juan Manuel Fangio (!!!!!). And there is some great pics of 1966
cars (close of the 67 cars). But there is also track maps. Here is
some that are maybe in the 1967 season. Sebring, Silverstone (the REAL
track), Buenos Aires (like F1 this week), Aintree, Nurburgring
(22,810km), Zandvoort, Spa-Francorchamps (14,120km), Monte-Carlo, Imola,
Monza, etc. AFAIK also there is the Country of each F1 race in the
book. If you know the track please reply. Monaco, Belgium, France,
England, Holland, Germany, Italy, USA, Mexico. In England I don't what
race: Crystal Palace, Brands Hatch or Silverstone. Maybe if I find a
scanner I will post some pics in alt.binaries.simulators.autos. Monza
and Nurbuburgring pics are great. Thanks a lot,

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by **Richard K.B. Marte** » Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Are you sure it's turn 2 at Mosport and not the turn 5/Moss complex? Or is turn 2 one where the track drops away from you as you're going around?

Rick

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