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How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

Kai Fulle

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Kai Fulle » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00

hehe :)
The Black Cat =^..^

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by The Black Cat =^..^ » Wed, 31 May 2000 04:00:00



The non-racing stuff gets old pretty quick but I could watch the
racing sequences over and over again and never get tired of it.

Tony StewartNo

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Tony StewartNo » Thu, 01 Jun 2000 04:00:00

1,230 :-)

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Dan Belch

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Dan Belch » Thu, 01 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I STILL haven't seen Grand Prix.  I can't find it anywhere around here and I
don't get Speedvision, so I'll have to order it online or through a catalog to
see it.  ::sigh::

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Matthew V. Jessic

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Matthew V. Jessic » Thu, 01 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Once between the ***s of friends who borrow it ;)

> hehe :)

Ross Hashan

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Ross Hashan » Thu, 01 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hey, now here's a dandy of an idea:
Every few months, Speedvision shows John Frankenheimer's "Grand Prix"
(letterboxed version) on their "Lost Drive-In" movie feature (hosted by
Bruce Dern).  I watched it the first time it was on, I watched it a second
time, and I watched it again on this past weekend (I also own the video --
but it isn't in letterbox format!). Anyhow, if you haven't seen it, the
Speedvision presentation is interspersed with interviews with John
Frankenheimer (the director of the movie) and James Garner (actor/driver).
They talk about everything - from discussing Carol Shelby's help in making
the mock-up Grand Prix cars, to the massive amount of footage that was left
on the cutting room floor, to how they added the car's shifting sound
effects post-production, to whether the outcome of the movie would be
different if Frankenheimer could film it again... all the way to the
question: "could a movie like this ever be made again?" (in short: "no".)

Anyhow, I'm sure there's lots of interview questions that haven't yet made
it to air, due to time constraints, and there is lots of additional footage,
such as Garner & Jacques Villeneuve driving around the Monza banking last
November -- Garner in an old F1 car, Villeneuve in his '99 Lucky Strike BAR
F1 car. Great stuff!

WOULDN'T IT BE ****FAN-TAS-TIC***** if Speedvision were able to get the
rights to put out a special Collector's Edition DVD:
'Speedvision Presents the Lost Drive-In:
             "Grand Prix"-- the Movie'
featuring the movie in letterbox format, all the interviews with
Frankenheimer & Garner, possibly some "lost" footage that never made it to
production, and clips such as the Garner/Villeneuve piece at Monza. Hey,
they could even team up with Sierra & plug our beloved Grand Prix Legends
computer sim-- or better still, include a free copy of GPL along with the
DVD.

Hey, I wonder how many people might be interested in something like this--
perhaps we could start a petition and get Speedvision to look into it?!!

R. Hashana


Gaul

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Gaul » Thu, 01 Jun 2000 04:00:00

(snipped)

If they did, I'd place my order immediately.  The wife had best not be in my
path to the phone.  :-)

Andrew Turne

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Andrew Turne » Thu, 01 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Good idea. I've yet to see the original even once, but I love that kind of
stuff.

Andrew


> Hey, now here's a dandy of an idea:
> Every few months, Speedvision shows John Frankenheimer's "Grand Prix"
> (letterboxed version) on their "Lost Drive-In" movie feature (hosted by
> Bruce Dern).  I watched it the first time it was on, I watched it a second
> time, and I watched it again on this past weekend (I also own the video --
> but it isn't in letterbox format!). Anyhow, if you haven't seen it, the
> Speedvision presentation is interspersed with interviews with John
> Frankenheimer (the director of the movie) and James Garner (actor/driver).
> They talk about everything - from discussing Carol Shelby's help in making
> the mock-up Grand Prix cars, to the massive amount of footage that was left
> on the cutting room floor, to how they added the car's shifting sound
> effects post-production, to whether the outcome of the movie would be
> different if Frankenheimer could film it again... all the way to the
> question: "could a movie like this ever be made again?" (in short: "no".)

> Anyhow, I'm sure there's lots of interview questions that haven't yet made
> it to air, due to time constraints, and there is lots of additional footage,
> such as Garner & Jacques Villeneuve driving around the Monza banking last
> November -- Garner in an old F1 car, Villeneuve in his '99 Lucky Strike BAR
> F1 car. Great stuff!

> WOULDN'T IT BE ****FAN-TAS-TIC***** if Speedvision were able to get the
> rights to put out a special Collector's Edition DVD:
> 'Speedvision Presents the Lost Drive-In:
>              "Grand Prix"-- the Movie'
> featuring the movie in letterbox format, all the interviews with
> Frankenheimer & Garner, possibly some "lost" footage that never made it to
> production, and clips such as the Garner/Villeneuve piece at Monza. Hey,
> they could even team up with Sierra & plug our beloved Grand Prix Legends
> computer sim-- or better still, include a free copy of GPL along with the
> DVD.

> Hey, I wonder how many people might be interested in something like this--
> perhaps we could start a petition and get Speedvision to look into it?!!

> R. Hashana



> > I STILL haven't seen Grand Prix.  I can't find it anywhere around here and
> I
> > don't get Speedvision, so I'll have to order it online or through a
> catalog to
> > see it.  ::sigh::

Eldre

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Eldre » Thu, 01 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Didn't someone here already suggest that?  Not to take anything away from you -
that's a great idea!

Eldred
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Michael G. Lower

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Michael G. Lower » Thu, 01 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Dan,
        If I remember correctly, my wife placed the order at our local
Blockbuster video store. Didn't take long to receive it, either. Be sure
to specify that you want the letterbox version.

Michael Lowery


> I STILL haven't seen Grand Prix.  I can't find it anywhere around here and I
> don't get Speedvision, so I'll have to order it online or through a catalog to
> see it.  ::sigh::

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> Dan Belcher
> Team Racing Unlimited
> http://simcrash.00game.com

Marc Goldstei

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Marc Goldstei » Fri, 02 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Be sure

Sorry to sound like an idiot, but what is the letterbox version?

Marc

Dan Belch

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Dan Belch » Fri, 02 Jun 2000 04:00:00

The widescreen version that shows the entire screen as seen in the theaters.
It has the black space at the top and bottom.

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Marc Goldstei

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Marc Goldstei » Fri, 02 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Thanks, I thought that was probably what it meant.

Marc

Rich Yas

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Rich Yas » Tue, 06 Jun 2000 04:00:00

OK, DVD and Grand Prix... I've gotta jump in on this one.

This film (along with "9 Days") was an extremely valuable resource for us
when we were developing GPL lo those many moons ago.  Back then, there was
no widescreen VHS version available, so the LD was the only way of viewing
the racing scenes as Frankenheimer intended, i.e. in their original
widescreen glory.

MGM has a spotty track record when it comes to DVD. At times, they have done
excellent work (the new SE's of the Bond films), and at other times they've
done nothing but give us a barebones version taken from a tired old LD
master.  I just hope that when the time comes to do GP, they don't give us
the latter.  One encouraging sign is that the release of the film on
widescreen VHS indicates that MGM does care about the film to at least some
degree.

In the Lost Drive In interview with Frankenheimer, he mentioned that a lot
of footage wound up on the cutting room floor.  Clearly, some footage was
shot in Mexico (only several seconds of black and white footage of Garner in
the Esses made it into the film) and in the opening credits, the producers
"thanked" Watkins Glen - so it seems like footage was shot there as well.
Unfortunately, it's highly unlikely that a lot of this stuff is still
*** around 34 years after the fact - but one never knows.

Come on MGM! We want the film remastered... we want 5.1 sound... we want
commentary tracks with Frankenheimer, Garner, and Phil Hill... we want all
the Lost Drive In footage and interviews... we want in-car footage from
Clermont-Ferrand (described as a "mini Nurburgring") so that Dave Noonan
and/or the GPLEA can work their magic on it... we want the stuff from Mexico
and the Glen... in short, we want it all.

Since GP is such a long film, I hope that MGM follows Fox's lead with Patton
and puts the film on 1 DVD and all the extra goodies on a second one (maybe
even a DVD-18!)  Probably won't happen, but hey - I can dream, can't I?

- Rich

"There are fewer than thirty men in the world qualified to drive Formula
One.  A mere half dozen, perhaps, to win. At this moment, I am inclined to
think you are not one of them..."

Roger Walke

How many times can you guys watch "Grand Prix" ?

by Roger Walke » Tue, 06 Jun 2000 04:00:00


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The best line of the movie! :o)


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