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OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

Stephen Smit

OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

by Stephen Smit » Thu, 11 Jan 2001 07:01:36

If you're a fan of the 1966 movie "Grand Prix", or interested in Sly
Stallone's new film, "Driven," check out these sites...

For "GP":

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

For "Driven" (it includes a clip):

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

--Steve Smith

Michael Veldma

OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

by Michael Veldma » Thu, 11 Jan 2001 09:55:56

Ouch, just watched the "Driven" trailer.
Is that bad (as in awful) or what!

Michael


Haines

OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

by Haines » Thu, 11 Jan 2001 10:24:08

Wow, that's really a great read. Lots of interesting stuff I never knew about
the movie.

Hey Steve, didn't you use to play drums for Journey? :)

Larry Haines

Stephen Smit

OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

by Stephen Smit » Thu, 11 Jan 2001 13:17:52

Michael, Larry,

No, I used to manage the Kennedy family's money.  Now I race under the nom
de drive "Beau Brandenberg," the Stallone's driver in Driven."  But yer
right--"Driven" looks like una bomba.  The "Grand Prix" piece was apparently
written when Stallone still hoped to make "Driven" as a F1 movie.  I'm sure
Bernie's grinders talked him out of it.  CART musta been cheap--they think
500 fans in the stands is a "crowd."  There are probably more hours spent
playing "GPL" every year than watching the FedEx Championship, huh?

--Steve


big..

OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

by big.. » Thu, 11 Jan 2001 16:31:56

Driven really looks like ***doesn't it?

It also claims to be the first open-wheel
racing movie since Grand Prix in 1966.

What about Bobby Deerfield in the 70's?
Ignoring the issue of quality, obviously.

-Nick


> Ouch, just watched the "Driven" trailer.
> Is that bad (as in awful) or what!
> Michael


>> If you're a fan of the 1966 movie "Grand Prix", or interested in Sly
>> Stallone's new film, "Driven," check out these sites...

>> For "GP":

>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>> For "Driven" (it includes a clip):

>> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>> --Steve Smith

Stephen Smit

OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

by Stephen Smit » Thu, 11 Jan 2001 23:29:13

Nick,

The original claim was that "Driven" was going to be the first F1 movie
since 1966 (altho wasn't "Grand Prix" actually *released* in '67?; the
footage in the picture was *shot* during the '66 season), but with the
prices Bernie is charging to even whisper the magic words, the next F1 movie
prolly won't be til 2066.

Besides the egregious "Bobby Deerfield," there was also the 1969 clunker
"Winning," from which I got my first online nom de drive, Luther Erhard (Bob
Wagner's Snively Whiplash-ish protagonist to P.L. Newman's Indy car driver,
Frank Capua).

Man, there have been some baaaaaaaaaaaad racing movies!  Remember "The
Racers"?  "I'm leakin' oil, Gino...."

--Steve


> Driven really looks like ***doesn't it?

> It also claims to be the first open-wheel
> racing movie since Grand Prix in 1966.

> What about Bobby Deerfield in the 70's?
> Ignoring the issue of quality, obviously.

> -Nick


> > Ouch, just watched the "Driven" trailer.
> > Is that bad (as in awful) or what!

> > Michael

big..

OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

by big.. » Fri, 12 Jan 2001 05:30:32

I haven't seen The Racers, but with a line like that I might have
to track it down :)

-Nick


> Nick,
> The original claim was that "Driven" was going to be the first F1 movie
> since 1966 (altho wasn't "Grand Prix" actually *released* in '67?; the
> footage in the picture was *shot* during the '66 season), but with the
> prices Bernie is charging to even whisper the magic words, the next F1 movie
> prolly won't be til 2066.
> Besides the egregious "Bobby Deerfield," there was also the 1969 clunker
> "Winning," from which I got my first online nom de drive, Luther Erhard (Bob
> Wagner's Snively Whiplash-ish protagonist to P.L. Newman's Indy car driver,
> Frank Capua).
> Man, there have been some baaaaaaaaaaaad racing movies!  Remember "The
> Racers"?  "I'm leakin' oil, Gino...."
> --Steve


>> Driven really looks like ***doesn't it?

>> It also claims to be the first open-wheel
>> racing movie since Grand Prix in 1966.

>> What about Bobby Deerfield in the 70's?
>> Ignoring the issue of quality, obviously.

>> -Nick


>> > Ouch, just watched the "Driven" trailer.
>> > Is that bad (as in awful) or what!

>> > Michael

jbo..

OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

by jbo.. » Fri, 12 Jan 2001 07:12:06

Ouch, Steve!  Even though I'm an IRL fan, that hurt!  I admit that CART
and the IRL need to mend some fences soon -- both series have a lot to
offer, but working against each other is only hurting open wheel racing
in the U.S., which means that in the end, nobody wins.

Still, that WAS a bit harsh -- CART still puts on some great races, and
they do manage to pack in the fans at places like Long Beach.
Zanardi's return in 2001 should make up for the loss of Montoya, so
don't count CART as dead yet.  Quite a shame that they couldn't retain
Bobby Rahal as their CEO, though.

-- JB



> Michael, Larry,

> No, I used to manage the Kennedy family's money.  Now I race under
the nom
> de drive "Beau Brandenberg," the Stallone's driver in Driven."  But
yer
> right--"Driven" looks like una bomba.  The "Grand Prix" piece was
apparently
> written when Stallone still hoped to make "Driven" as a F1 movie.
I'm sure
> Bernie's grinders talked him out of it.  CART musta been cheap--they
think
> 500 fans in the stands is a "crowd."  There are probably more hours
spent
> playing "GPL" every year than watching the FedEx Championship, huh?

> --Steve



> > >If you're a fan of the 1966 movie "Grand Prix",

> > >http://www.atlasf1.com/99/mon/okeefe.html

> > Wow, that's really a great read. Lots of interesting stuff I never
knew
> about
> > the movie.

> > Hey Steve, didn't you use to play drums for Journey? :)

> > Larry Haines

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Eldre

OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

by Eldre » Fri, 12 Jan 2001 14:20:13


>Zanardi's return in 2001 should make up for the loss of Montoya, so
>don't count CART as dead yet.

Too bad they're not in the same series.  Two exciting drivers like that would
do WONDERS.

Eldred
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Haines

OT: "Grand Prix" vs. "Driven"

by Haines » Fri, 12 Jan 2001 22:03:52

I always wondered what the hell went on there. Knew it was something fishy.
That explains alot, thanks!!!!!!!

Larry


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