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by **Larr** » Wed, 31 Dec 2003 10:57:18

Getting there... :)

LAP TIME
1 75.413000
2 75.624000
3 76.856000
4 75.632000
5 74.891000
6 75.756000
7 74.985000
8 75.190000
9 75.071000
10 74.957000

-Larry

by **Glen Pittma** » Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:49:39

These laps were exported from a replay of a TA race at Kyalami that I ran
in. The guy who put these laps up didn't win. He was very fast though, and
only a BF kept him from winning.

Glen Pittman

Race laps
Lap 0: 3m37.865s ( 40.814)
Lap 1: 1m18.136s (113.802)
Lap 2: 1m14.510s (119.340)
Lap 3: 1m13.776s (120.527)
Lap 4: 1m13.829s (120.441)
Lap 5: 1m14.249s (119.759)
Lap 6: 1m13.702s (120.648)
Lap 7: 1m13.717s (120.624)
Lap 8: 1m13.822s (120.452)
Lap 9: 1m13.855s (120.398)
Lap 10: 1m14.633s (119.143)
Lap 11: 1m14.214s (119.816)
Lap 12: 1m14.681s (119.067)
Lap 13: 1m16.430s (116.342)
Lap 14: 1m17.661s (114.498) [Off the track]
Lap 15: 1m14.880s (118.750) [Off the track]
Lap 16: 1m14.665s (119.092)
Lap 17: 1m24.670s (105.020)
Lap 18: 1m48.889s ( 81.661) [Off the track, Pitted]
Lap 19: 1m14.478s (119.391)
Lap 20: 1m14.582s (119.225) [Off the track]
Lap 21: 1m14.066s (120.055)
Lap 22: 1m16.132s (116.797)
Lap 23: 1m14.788s (118.896)
Lap 24: 1m13.796s (120.495)
Lap 25: 1m13.895s (120.333)
Lap 26: 1m13.796s (120.495) [Off the track]
Lap 27: 1m14.196s (119.845) [Off the track]
Lap 28: 1m14.803s (118.872)
Lap 29: 1m15.692s (117.476) [Off the track]
Lap 30: 1m14.953s (118.635)
Lap 31: 1m14.322s (119.642)
Lap 32: 1m14.303s (119.672) [Off the track]
Lap 33: 1m14.857s (118.787)
Lap 34: 1m14.914s (118.696) [Off the track]
Lap 35: 1m23.688s (106.252)
Lap 36: 1m35.890s ( 92.731)

by **Glen Pittma** » Wed, 31 Dec 2003 11:52:20

BTW Larry, those are pretty good laps there. I would be happy if I could
run consistent laps like that. I have ran low 1:14's but during the race I
was anywhere from 1:14 to 1:18 on laps when I had no apparent troubles
except for my ability <G>

Glen

by **Larr** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 01:04:38

I never left the track :)

-Larry

> These laps were exported from a replay of a TA race at Kyalami that I ran
> in. The guy who put these laps up didn't win. He was very fast though,
and
> only a BF kept him from winning.

> Glen Pittman

> Race laps
> Lap 0: 3m37.865s ( 40.814)
> Lap 1: 1m18.136s (113.802)
> Lap 2: 1m14.510s (119.340)
> Lap 3: 1m13.776s (120.527)
> Lap 4: 1m13.829s (120.441)
> Lap 5: 1m14.249s (119.759)
> Lap 6: 1m13.702s (120.648)
> Lap 7: 1m13.717s (120.624)
> Lap 8: 1m13.822s (120.452)
> Lap 9: 1m13.855s (120.398)
> Lap 10: 1m14.633s (119.143)
> Lap 11: 1m14.214s (119.816)
> Lap 12: 1m14.681s (119.067)
> Lap 13: 1m16.430s (116.342)
> Lap 14: 1m17.661s (114.498) [Off the track]
> Lap 15: 1m14.880s (118.750) [Off the track]
> Lap 16: 1m14.665s (119.092)
> Lap 17: 1m24.670s (105.020)
> Lap 18: 1m48.889s ( 81.661) [Off the track, Pitted]
> Lap 19: 1m14.478s (119.391)
> Lap 20: 1m14.582s (119.225) [Off the track]
> Lap 21: 1m14.066s (120.055)
> Lap 22: 1m16.132s (116.797)
> Lap 23: 1m14.788s (118.896)
> Lap 24: 1m13.796s (120.495)
> Lap 25: 1m13.895s (120.333)
> Lap 26: 1m13.796s (120.495) [Off the track]
> Lap 27: 1m14.196s (119.845) [Off the track]
> Lap 28: 1m14.803s (118.872)
> Lap 29: 1m15.692s (117.476) [Off the track]
> Lap 30: 1m14.953s (118.635)
> Lap 31: 1m14.322s (119.642)
> Lap 32: 1m14.303s (119.672) [Off the track]
> Lap 33: 1m14.857s (118.787)
> Lap 34: 1m14.914s (118.696) [Off the track]
> Lap 35: 1m23.688s (106.252)
> Lap 36: 1m35.890s ( 92.731)

> > Getting there... :)

> > LAP TIME
> > 1 75.413000
> > 2 75.624000
> > 3 76.856000
> > 4 75.632000
> > 5 74.891000
> > 6 75.756000
> > 7 74.985000
> > 8 75.190000
> > 9 75.071000
> > 10 74.957000

> > -Larry

by **Larr** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 01:06:39

If I can run average 1:16 laps and NOT GET PUNTED OUT FROM BEHIND I will be
a happy camper :)

-Larry

> BTW Larry, those are pretty good laps there. I would be happy if I could
> run consistent laps like that. I have ran low 1:14's but during the race
I
> was anywhere from 1:14 to 1:18 on laps when I had no apparent troubles
> except for my ability <G>

> Glen

> > Getting there... :)

> > LAP TIME
> > 1 75.413000
> > 2 75.624000
> > 3 76.856000
> > 4 75.632000
> > 5 74.891000
> > 6 75.756000
> > 7 74.985000
> > 8 75.190000
> > 9 75.071000
> > 10 74.957000

> > -Larry

by **Brian Oste** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 02:20:53

Damn I hate to miss this race... love this track and the mod. With
the PWF beta I can turn a flat 15, avg over 20 laps is probabably in
the 16s. With the Pits mod the fastest I have turned is a 15.5 (same
physics right... so it is just a mental thing?). Anyway I think I saw
a post from Mark saying he was turning low 14s so I figure 15.5 or 16
might make it to mid-pack if you can keep it on the track the full
race. The road course gurus will be long gone and out of reach after
about 10 laps.

Brian Oster

>If I can run average 1:16 laps and NOT GET PUNTED OUT FROM BEHIND I will be
>a happy camper :)

>-Larry

>> BTW Larry, those are pretty good laps there. I would be happy if I could
>> run consistent laps like that. I have ran low 1:14's but during the race
>I
>> was anywhere from 1:14 to 1:18 on laps when I had no apparent troubles
>> except for my ability <G>

>> Glen

>> > Getting there... :)

>> > LAP TIME
>> > 1 75.413000
>> > 2 75.624000
>> > 3 76.856000
>> > 4 75.632000
>> > 5 74.891000
>> > 6 75.756000
>> > 7 74.985000
>> > 8 75.190000
>> > 9 75.071000
>> > 10 74.957000

>> > -Larry

by **Larr** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 06:05:18

Now that I'm in the 15's consistently, it's time for me to attack ONE corner
at a time in different ways to see if I can change that. My most likely
suspects are:

1. Turn 1 (or is it 2 ?) This is the corner _after_ the kink you have to
slow down for on the straight. The sharp right-hander.
2. The sharp right-hander after the 'kink' to the left. This is the
section right after the turn indicated above. I can _almost_ go through
there full throttle after getting the car set, but I think my entry needs a
little work. I can't decide whether it's best to go to 5th prior to this
corner or not, still working on that. I'm right at the end of the revs in
4th when approaching, and downshift to 3rd for this corner.
3. The very sharp, 2nd gear left-hander right after the above corner. I
KNOW I need to work on my entry here. Need to try late entry and early
entry both to see which is best.
4. The esses. I'm ok once I'm in there, but I think my entry could be
better.
5. The right-hander you brake for at the end of the straight. There are
about a dozen ways to approach this turn and I still don't know which one is
best. I'm laying *** the brakes at the second sign and slowly
downshifting to 3rd. Never really saw any time improvements going to 2nd.
I've toyed with braking later than the 2nd sign, but it's hit or miss
(literally LOL!). Making it to the 3rd sign before braking is impossible.
I've tried it a dozen times, and end up in the grandstand every time.

I'd love to find another second but I don't know if I have enough time...

A BIG hint here - The visibility out of the Mustang is far superior to the
Corvette. I felt like I had blinders on in the Vette.

I'll be running the #10 canned car for lack of anything else... I can
switch if it confilicts, as long as it's a Mustang.

-Larry

> Damn I hate to miss this race... love this track and the mod. With
> the PWF beta I can turn a flat 15, avg over 20 laps is probabably in
> the 16s. With the Pits mod the fastest I have turned is a 15.5 (same
> physics right... so it is just a mental thing?). Anyway I think I saw
> a post from Mark saying he was turning low 14s so I figure 15.5 or 16
> might make it to mid-pack if you can keep it on the track the full
> race. The road course gurus will be long gone and out of reach after
> about 10 laps.

> Brian Oster

> >If I can run average 1:16 laps and NOT GET PUNTED OUT FROM BEHIND I will
be
> >a happy camper :)

> >-Larry

> >> BTW Larry, those are pretty good laps there. I would be happy if I
could
> >> run consistent laps like that. I have ran low 1:14's but during the
race
> >I
> >> was anywhere from 1:14 to 1:18 on laps when I had no apparent troubles
> >> except for my ability <G>

> >> Glen

> >> > Getting there... :)

> >> > LAP TIME
> >> > 1 75.413000
> >> > 2 75.624000
> >> > 3 76.856000
> >> > 4 75.632000
> >> > 5 74.891000
> >> > 6 75.756000
> >> > 7 74.985000
> >> > 8 75.190000
> >> > 9 75.071000
> >> > 10 74.957000

> >> > -Larry

by **JLe** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 06:15:14

Same here, havent found the right entry-point, I know its a fast corner
but I have to slow done too much.

Try going faster through the "kink" in stead - if all goes well, I shift
to 5th right after the kink.

Larry & all others - please use your normal carnumbers as it would create
a real mess otherwise with the standings. (You can always copy an
existing car and change the info for it)

cheers jurjen

by ZZ » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 06:48:31

Hey guys, it's a road course. Sometimes good exit speeds are better then
good entry speeds.

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by **Eldre** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 06:56:58

>Damn I hate to miss this race... love this track and the mod. With
>the PWF beta I can turn a flat 15, avg over 20 laps is probabably in
>the 16s. With the Pits mod the fastest I have turned is a 15.5 (same
>physics right... so it is just a mental thing?). Anyway I think I saw
>a post from Mark saying he was turning low 14s so I figure 15.5 or 16
>might make it to mid-pack if you can keep it on the track the full
>race. The road course gurus will be long gone and out of reach after
>about 10 laps.

Ok, now I'm curious. I'm just wondering what kinds of speed(or lack thereof) I
can come up with. This is the TA mod, right? Assuming I can FIND the thing,
then download and install, I'll post my times. That should be good for a few
laughs...<g>

Eldred
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by **Mitch_** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 07:24:30

Being the GPL master that you are you shouldnt have ANY problems keeping
up. This short series really suits your "steady" driving style.
Keeping it on track will geet you a pretty good finishing position.
Anywhere near 1.16 and under control and youre in pretty good shape.
(hey didnt oster just say that) :).

We're running the TPTCC version which you can get at the uspits. Get the
soundpack also. The schedule is being revised to include Lemans-Sartha,
Mosport and Road Atlanta so grab em too, see the RSC forum for details.

Mitch

> Ok, now I'm curious. I'm just wondering what kinds of speed(or lack thereof) I
> can come up with. This is the TA mod, right? Assuming I can FIND the thing,
> then download and install, I'll post my times. That should be good for a few
> laughs...<g>

> Eldred

by **bluestringe** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 07:45:55

> >Damn I hate to miss this race... love this track and the mod. With
> >the PWF beta I can turn a flat 15, avg over 20 laps is probabably in
> >the 16s. With the Pits mod the fastest I have turned is a 15.5 (same
> >physics right... so it is just a mental thing?). Anyway I think I saw
> >a post from Mark saying he was turning low 14s so I figure 15.5 or 16
> >might make it to mid-pack if you can keep it on the track the full
> >race. The road course gurus will be long gone and out of reach after
> >about 10 laps.

> Ok, now I'm curious. I'm just wondering what kinds of speed(or lack
thereof) I
> can come up with. This is the TA mod, right? Assuming I can FIND the
thing,
> then download and install, I'll post my times. That should be good for a
few
> laughs...<g>

> Eldred
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HA, you want a good laugh Eldred. The best I have been able to do is 1.17.2.
But, on the bright side, starting at the back at least I can't get punted,
but then again after one lap I probably will get punted.

bluestringer

by **Tim Paulli** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 08:42:54

You wont here any giggling from me, 1:18 is the best for me so far. Man I
suck at roadies!(ok I'm not that fast anywhere).

Tim

by **Haqsa** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 11:21:53

Bah, it's just like Kyalami in GPL, except you don't have to slow down quite
as much.

by **Brian Oste** » Thu, 01 Jan 2004 11:51:09

<snip>

If you get the soundpack (and you should) be sure to install John
Simmons' D3 Player Picker and install with the option to use d3pp and
then you can seamlessly switch soundpacks between the mods.

Brian Oster

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