> > But is it 1/2 the price of a Voodoo? And how many of the verite games are
> >incapable of using the Voodoo? He already has a 2D card; the cheapest
> Native support for any card is unusual.. Most games support D3D. Many so
> called "3DFX games" are actually D3D.
Where do you get your info?
Many more so called "3Dfx games" are actually... (dramatic pause)
Native 3Dfx (GLIDE) games.
Over 70 actual GLIDE games. Numbers dont lie.
Marc.
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Tou read this, or just heard it? Tomb Raider II already supports D3D..
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>>http://www.homeshopping.com.br/~oaks/ . This site doesn't touch on
>>quality but it can still be used as a rough guide. By quality I mean
>>both Verite and Riva can run Quake 2, but neither provide the image
>>quality or speed of the Voodoo.
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>Please elaborate. I know that the Voodoo is the fastest Quake 2
>performer, but how is the Voodoo's image quality superior to the
>V2x00's in Quake 2?
>> But is it 1/2 the price of a Voodoo? And how many of the verite games
are
>>incapable of using the Voodoo? He already has a 2D card; the cheapest
> Native support for any card is unusual.. Most games support D3D. Many so
>called "3DFX games" are actually D3D.
> >> But is it 1/2 the price of a Voodoo? And how many of the verite games
> are
> >>incapable of using the Voodoo? He already has a 2D card; the cheapest
> > Native support for any card is unusual.. Most games support D3D. Many so
> >called "3DFX games" are actually D3D.
> I seem to recall reading on a web site that 3dfx voodoo chipset is the
> _only_ chipset on the market that supports _every_ feature built into
> Direct3D.
> Also keep in mind that nearly every new "direct3D" title out and coming out,
> also has a Glide (3dfx) version.
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GET THE PURE 3D!! The Heavy Gear patch makes the explosions look
sooooooooo nice with the extra 2 megs of texture memory. If you play
heavy gear -- you MUST get the Pure 3d (of course, the Stealth is
cheaper...)
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> >>>Please elaborate. I know that the Voodoo is the fastest Quake 2
> >>>performer, but how is the Voodoo's image quality superior to the
> >>>V2x00's in Quake 2?
> >>Coloured lights dude.
> >No. GLQuake 2 on the Stealth II has colored lighting.
> It's also nearly as fast as on a 3DFX.. (benchmarks show the 3DFX to still
> have an advantage in speed though)
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Yes the colored lighting is a biggie, but there were some comparision shots
on the rendition newsgroup and the VQuake had much more detail in the
chracters...Clearer and with more definition, and that was compared with the
proper way to get a screen dump in glQuake so the screenshot gets reduced in
detail,(ie.the Voodoo shot was as good as it supposed to get) BUT...having
said that, a still screen shot does not compare frame rate and or special
effects, but what it did show...was that the V2100 running Quake can produce
a superior picture[again, at this point in time, without colored lighting]
Finally the V2100 can run GL Quake as well...can Voodoo run V Quake??dave
henrie
>>On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 16:03:08 +0000, mikal todd
Really? Are there other chipsets out that support Glide? Maybe I'm out of
the loop or something.
> >> But is it 1/2 the price of a Voodoo? And how many of the verite games are
> >>incapable of using the Voodoo? He already has a 2D card; the cheapest
> > Native support for any card is unusual.. Most games support D3D. Many so
> >called "3DFX games" are actually D3D.
> Where do you get your info?
> Many more so called "3Dfx games" are actually... (dramatic pause)
> Native 3Dfx (GLIDE) games.
> Over 70 actual GLIDE games. Numbers dont lie.
> Marc.
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With Microsoft's alliance with SGI and Intel's with 3Dfx I guarantee that the
Voodoo will be the closest thing to the 'standard' that you can get and when
voodoo2 comes out it will initially be like AGP, a good idea but not quite ready
and no one will support it (I know that its supposed to be backwardsly
compatible(?) with the voodoo chip but you still need bug free drivers to get the
thing going).
So even if the game is written to use D3D and not a native library, I still
guarantee that it will look a lot better on a voodoo board than anything else
because many of the other boards do not natively support those features used in
D3D.
>>Please elaborate. I know that the Voodoo is the fastest Quake 2
>>performer, but how is the Voodoo's image quality superior to the
>>V2x00's in Quake 2?
>Coloured lights dude.
No colored lights in Quake2 running on a V2K huh? Guess the colored lights
I'm seeing must be LSD in the water :)
Seriously, the V2K's native Open-GL miniport _does_ do colored lights. the
only reason it wouldn't is if you're using the V1K Open-GL driver, or a D3D
wrapper..
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>>>Please elaborate. I know that the Voodoo is the fastest Quake 2
>>>performer, but how is the Voodoo's image quality superior to the
>>>V2x00's in Quake 2?
>>Coloured lights dude.
>No. GLQuake 2 on the Stealth II has colored lighting.
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> Yes the colored lighting is a biggie, but there were some comparision shots
> on the rendition newsgroup and the VQuake had much more detail in the
> chracters...Clearer and with more definition, and that was compared with the
> proper way to get a screen dump in glQuake so the screenshot gets reduced in
> detail,(ie.the Voodoo shot was as good as it supposed to get) BUT...having
> said that, a still screen shot does not compare frame rate and or special
> effects, but what it did show...was that the V2100 running Quake can produce
> a superior picture[again, at this point in time, without colored lighting]
> Finally the V2100 can run GL Quake as well...can Voodoo run V Quake??dave
> henrie
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>>>On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 16:03:08 +0000, mikal todd
>BLAH BLAH
>> NHL98 is _not_ voodoo only.
>>>RichC
>Really? Are there other chipsets out that support Glide? Maybe I'm out of
>the loop or something.
Thanks.
RichC
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