As many of you have already guessed, we are hard at work on an upgrade to
address the top issues and requests that have been sent to us or posted
regarding CPR 1.0.
Watch this space for details soon - these changes are getting spec'd and
coded currently.
Thanks for the amazing feedback - and keep it coming.
CPR Team.
I won't list the changes yet until I have the final confirmed list - I would
hate to imply that the patch will update something it doesn't.
But if you're really curious, a quick scan of r.a.s. will cover it!
More news when I have the patch details confirmed.
XRaceTrak wrote in article
>>top issues and requests that have been sent to us or posted
>>regarding CPR 1.0.
>Just out of curiosity, could you tell us what those "top issues
>and requests" are?
>Glad to hear you're working hard and not kicking back.......
>- Mike.
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Just out of curiosity, could you tell us what those "top issues
and requests" are?
Glad to hear you're working hard and not kicking back.......
- Mike.
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: But if you're really curious, a quick scan of r.a.s. will cover it!
How about including an oval track for the demo. I'd like to see how it
handles on an oval as compared to a road course. Most other demos have
been 1 oval/ 1 road course.
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> I won't list the changes yet until I have the final confirmed list - I would
> hate to imply that the patch will update something it doesn't.
> But if you're really curious, a quick scan of r.a.s. will cover it!
> More news when I have the patch details confirmed.
I didn't see Greg Cisko's posting - can someone pass it on?
Was he assuming that frame rate performance was not going to be in the
patch? On what basis?
>>Uh oh... I think that answers your framerate question. Unfortunately :-(
>>--
>Actually, all it says for sure (IMO) is that the issues the fellow
>from MS' licensee is discussing (whatever they are) won't be
>addressed in the first release version.
>IOW, I think he's saying they're working on a patch that addresses
>issues. Whether framerate is in it we'll have to see... though I'm not
>optimistic, I don't think his posting that it's about to be released
>quite decides the issue.
>Getting it out now is dictated by the calendar approaching Christmas.
>Which I understand... I'm to the point where I judge software releases
>at the end of the year not by the release product, but by the patch,
>if any, as long as it's out relatively promptly. And that doesn't
>bother me *that* much.
>.
The feedback from *everyone* is being considered - trial and GOLD users.
Should have some good news for you soon. Patch is going well.
fyi CPR should be on the shelves earlier than expected - perhaps as early as
this week.
>>As many of you have already guessed, we are hard at work on an upgrade to
>>address the top issues and requests that have been sent to us or posted
>>regarding CPR 1.0.
>>Watch this space for details soon - these changes are getting spec'd and
>>coded currently.
>>Thanks for the amazing feedback - and keep it coming.
>>CPR Team.
>Dean, I have made several post's concerning my impressions of the CPR
>demo. I realize that you are probably referencing the "beta" rather.
>Just curious if you are doing anything to drastically improve the
>issue of "framerate" overall to the final product? While I have found
>it possible to now drive and get some feel by following the different
>posts such as setting the T2 to joystick and downloading some setups
>of the net, ect... , I am still not seeing near the performance I
>would hope to expect from my system: P166MMX w/ Pure3d 3dfx . Having
>to turn off all the options under graphics including the***pit
>leaves me with a pretty dull impression in order to keep the framerate
>close to a 25-30 fps. which is what I need to be consistent on track.
>Sorry, but the impressions I am getting from the demo, I will have to
>pass up this title. Are you aware of any specific problems due to the
>Pure 3d's extra texture memory? I would think that this (CPR) being
>"Direct 3d", the extra ram onboard the Pure 3d should actually
>benefit.
>Ron L.
>(Please remove the extra letter(s) to respond)
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>For Nascar2 & Winston Cup Fans!
>.
Uh oh... I think that answers your framerate question. Unfortunately :-(
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> >On Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:13:49 -0800, "Dean (CART Team)"
> >>As many of you have already guessed, we are hard at work on an upgrade to
> >>address the top issues and requests that have been sent to us or posted
> >>regarding CPR 1.0.
> >>Watch this space for details soon - these changes are getting spec'd and
> >>coded currently.
> >>Thanks for the amazing feedback - and keep it coming.
> >>CPR Team.
> >Dean, I have made several post's concerning my impressions of the CPR
> >demo. I realize that you are probably referencing the "beta" rather.
> >Just curious if you are doing anything to drastically improve the
> >issue of "framerate" overall to the final product? While I have found
> >it possible to now drive and get some feel by following the different
> >posts such as setting the T2 to joystick and downloading some setups
> >of the net, ect... , I am still not seeing near the performance I
> >would hope to expect from my system: P166MMX w/ Pure3d 3dfx . Having
> >to turn off all the options under graphics including the***pit
> >leaves me with a pretty dull impression in order to keep the framerate
> >close to a 25-30 fps. which is what I need to be consistent on track.
> >Sorry, but the impressions I am getting from the demo, I will have to
> >pass up this title. Are you aware of any specific problems due to the
> >Pure 3d's extra texture memory? I would think that this (CPR) being
> >"Direct 3d", the extra ram onboard the Pure 3d should actually
> >benefit.
> >Ron L.
> >(Please remove the extra letter(s) to respond)
> >Home of the SSC http://www.racesimcentral.net/~lazer/
> >For Nascar2 & Winston Cup Fans!
> >.
On 10 Nov 1997 00:21:23 GMT, "Greg Cisko"
IOW, I think he's saying they're working on a patch that addresses
issues. Whether framerate is in it we'll have to see... though I'm not
optimistic, I don't think his posting that it's about to be released
quite decides the issue.
Getting it out now is dictated by the calendar approaching Christmas.
Which I understand... I'm to the point where I judge software releases
at the end of the year not by the release product, but by the patch,
if any, as long as it's out relatively promptly. And that doesn't
bother me *that* much.
The Uh oh is all that was in my post. Nothing startling :-) I believe the
gentleman I was replying to was asking if the framerate would be fixed
in the release version of the game. I claim that if it is being released
this early, the framerate issue will not be addressed when the game
is released, but rather in a later patch. i.e. typical.
BTW, I do like the trail version. I was able to get down to 1:12 so far.
I do like the way the car jumps on certain turns.
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> >On 10 Nov 1997 00:21:23 GMT, "Greg Cisko"
> >>Uh oh... I think that answers your framerate question. Unfortunately :-(
> >>--
> >Actually, all it says for sure (IMO) is that the issues the fellow
> >from MS' licensee is discussing (whatever they are) won't be
> >addressed in the first release version.
> >IOW, I think he's saying they're working on a patch that addresses
> >issues. Whether framerate is in it we'll have to see... though I'm not
> >optimistic, I don't think his posting that it's about to be released
> >quite decides the issue.
> >Getting it out now is dictated by the calendar approaching Christmas.
> >Which I understand... I'm to the point where I judge software releases
> >at the end of the year not by the release product, but by the patch,
> >if any, as long as it's out relatively promptly. And that doesn't
> >bother me *that* much.
> >.
Ok... Let's see how close this list is, then:
1. Framerate improvement
2. Engine blow-ups added
3. Framerate improvement
4. Twitchy steering fix
5. Framerate improvement
6. An option to kill the pit auto-pilot
7. Framerate improvement
8. Brightness adjustment for cars/track
9. Framerate improvement
10. Computer car AI improvements
11. Framerate improvement
12. A way to toggle object textures (which would help
improve the framerate)
How'd I do?? ;-)
About #2 on my list... I'm not what you'd call a serious "race
simmer" (I HAVE to use the shifting and braking help except
on ovals), but the engine not being able to blow up is a big
issue with me. It's not been discussed to much here, but I
think it will become a big issue when people get the full game
and really start playing. To me, that's one of the very basic
things in a SIMULATOR... I just don't understand how something
as basic that could be left out...
For what it's worth...
- Mike.
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Will there be a fix for framerate improvement ?
>>I won't list the changes yet until I have the final confirmed list - I would
>>hate to imply that the patch will update something it doesn't.
>>But if you're really curious, a quick scan of r.a.s. will cover it!
>Ok... Let's see how close this list is, then:
>1. Framerate improvement
>2. Engine blow-ups added
>3. Framerate improvement
>4. Twitchy steering fix
>5. Framerate improvement
>6. An option to kill the pit auto-pilot
>7. Framerate improvement
>8. Brightness adjustment for cars/track
>9. Framerate improvement
>10. Computer car AI improvements
>11. Framerate improvement
>12. A way to toggle object textures (which would help
> improve the framerate)
>How'd I do?? ;-)
>About #2 on my list... I'm not what you'd call a serious "race
>simmer" (I HAVE to use the shifting and braking help except
>on ovals), but the engine not being able to blow up is a big
>issue with me. It's not been discussed to much here, but I
>think it will become a big issue when people get the full game
>and really start playing. To me, that's one of the very basic
>things in a SIMULATOR... I just don't understand how something
>as basic that could be left out...
>For what it's worth...
>- Mike.
>====================================================
> Mike Holthouse - Indianapolis, IN
> I'm sick of spam!! To e-mail me, remove the "x"...
>====================================================
hmmm ... not bad 8 )
XRaceTrak wrote in article
>>I won't list the changes yet until I have the final confirmed list - I
would
>>hate to imply that the patch will update something it doesn't.
>>But if you're really curious, a quick scan of r.a.s. will cover it!
>Ok... Let's see how close this list is, then:
>1. Framerate improvement
>2. Engine blow-ups added
>3. Framerate improvement
>4. Twitchy steering fix
>5. Framerate improvement
>6. An option to kill the pit auto-pilot
>7. Framerate improvement
>8. Brightness adjustment for cars/track
>9. Framerate improvement
>10. Computer car AI improvements
>11. Framerate improvement
>12. A way to toggle object textures (which would help
> improve the framerate)
>How'd I do?? ;-)
>About #2 on my list... I'm not what you'd call a serious "race
>simmer" (I HAVE to use the shifting and braking help except
>on ovals), but the engine not being able to blow up is a big
>issue with me. It's not been discussed to much here, but I
>think it will become a big issue when people get the full game
>and really start playing. To me, that's one of the very basic
>things in a SIMULATOR... I just don't understand how something
>as basic that could be left out...
>For what it's worth...
>- Mike.
>====================================================
> Mike Holthouse - Indianapolis, IN
> I'm sick of spam!! To e-mail me, remove the "x"...
>====================================================
>.
> >This mean 30fps on my P166 Rendition?.........nah didn't think so.
> >;(
> >-JH-
> Did he say that???
l8er
ronny
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