rec.autos.simulators

framerate n2002

Mike Sheeha

framerate n2002

by Mike Sheeha » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 10:08:49

I just upgraded to XP and finally got the steering wheel issues straightened
out and now I have horrible frame rates 18-33 rps. P4 1.6   64meg intel
video card and 768 megs of RAM it ran better under win98 with 256 megs of
ram and same video card and P4. Any ideas??? Thanks
Damien Smit

framerate n2002

by Damien Smit » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 10:15:23

Have you installed the latest drivers for your Intel video card?  (The ones
supplied with XP are very slow)

Dave Henri

framerate n2002

by Dave Henri » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 10:30:21


   do you have direct X 8.1?  do you have vsync disabled?  Have you turned
off fsaa and anistropic filtering?  Have you updated your video and sound
drivers?    AND why do folks keep considering XP an upgrade?  It's a change
it is different, but an upgrade?  Certainly not enough in the framerate
arena to be cost effective.  Oh and while I'm at it...are all XP users Kite
Drivers?  :)
dave henrie
Ed Whit

framerate n2002

by Ed Whit » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 10:57:30

 AND why do folks keep considering XP an upgrade?  It's a change
Hey, I drive from inside, and yes, the fps took a hit with XP, but probably
the biggest loss was those pretty blue screens that MS built into the 9x OS
family......haven't seen one of those for ages now. Since many folks also
use their rigs for stuff besides driving (gotta download stuff, right?) the
stability of XP is a major plus, in my book. Even my wife and kids haven't
been able to kill it, tho sadly, it's usually me that does that......
Ed

Norman Blac

framerate n2002

by Norman Blac » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 11:24:04

XP is most definately an "upgrade" OS compared to the toy like Win9x
operating systems. While Win95 was an excellent compromize given its
requirements. Win98 should have moved in the direction of "NT" in
internal structure, it did not, and WinMe should have never existed.

XP and upgrade for NR2002. I do not consider operating systems upgrades
for applications (which run on multiple platforms). Hardware and drivers
are upgrades for game applications. Operating systems offer programming
APIs, like OpenGL/DirectX, and stability. Programming APIs are common an
virtually identical across all Windows platforms. Stability is something
Win9x has none of.

People do more than play NR2002 with their computer is my bet and XP is
hands down a better OS than Win9x. For me when I bought my Compaq
machine it had Win9x and I tried NR on it before I swapped on Win9x and
put Win2000 on. With Nvidia and OpenGL I lost no real frame rate to
notice (no real way to predictably benchmark NR (exact repetition)).
DirectX did lose frame rate. Historically many video and sound card
vendors had ***"NT" drivers. This is because WinNT/Win2000 were not
*** machines. XP is changing that situation. ATI was a notable "NT"
driver offender. NVidia was not.

I use XP and I drive in the drivers seat where the steering wheel is. It
seems obvious to me that you sit in front of the steering wheel to drive
a car. :)

Norman




> > > I just upgraded to XP and finally got the steering wheel issues
> > straightened
> > > out and now I have horrible frame rates 18-33 rps. P4 1.6   64meg
intel
> > > video card and 768 megs of RAM it ran better under win98 with 256
megs
> of
> > > ram and same video card and P4. Any ideas??? Thanks

> > Have you installed the latest drivers for your Intel video card?
(The
> ones
> > supplied with XP are very slow)

>    do you have direct X 8.1?  do you have vsync disabled?  Have you
turned
> off fsaa and anistropic filtering?  Have you updated your video and
sound
> drivers?    AND why do folks keep considering XP an upgrade?  It's a
change
> it is different, but an upgrade?  Certainly not enough in the
framerate
> arena to be cost effective.  Oh and while I'm at it...are all XP users
Kite
> Drivers?  :)
> dave henrie

Nick

framerate n2002

by Nick » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 21:37:04

NR2002? What's that again? Go race GTR2002, you know you want to....

PS/ Sorry Papyrus, you know I love ya.

Mario Petrinovi

framerate n2002

by Mario Petrinovi » Wed, 04 Dec 2002 22:55:49

        As far as I remember, change to every new level of OS (DOS to 95 to
98 to XP) brought losing 10% of frame rate. It's normal. -- Mario



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