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M$ FF Wheel problem.

Mick

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Mick » Mon, 14 May 2001 01:22:12

Hello all ...

I have a USB M$ FF Wheel, perfect condition.

I haven't used it for a while but have decided to get GPL up and running
on my machine.

I plug in the wheel, load the software (Sidewinder v3.02) but the machine
refuses to see the wheel. All I get is a HID Joystick (shown connected).
After installation, in the Game controller panel I get a Feedback pro
stick showing, (as Not connected), but NO Sidewinder wheel!

I have two USB ports on my machine. Using them are a Phillips ToUCam Pro
webacm and a M$ Intellimouse. I can uninstall the *** software and
move the mouse to a PS/2 port but my machine still fails to recognise my
wheel.

The wheel does work .... in the calibration section of the stick my
machine **thinks** is connected, the movements of the wheel do show up.

The soundcard is an SBLive, (Full).

This wheell **used** to work fine.

Has anyone any ideas?

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Cheers

Mick

Matti Jaakkone

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Matti Jaakkone » Mon, 14 May 2001 03:02:19


> Hello all ...

> I have a USB M$ FF Wheel, perfect condition.

> I haven't used it for a while but have decided to get GPL up and running
> on my machine.

> I plug in the wheel, load the software (Sidewinder v3.02) but the machine
> refuses to see the wheel. All I get is a HID Joystick (shown connected).
> After installation, in the Game controller panel I get a Feedback pro
> stick showing, (as Not connected), but NO Sidewinder wheel!

> I have two USB ports on my machine. Using them are a Phillips ToUCam Pro
> webacm and a M$ Intellimouse. I can uninstall the *** software and
> move the mouse to a PS/2 port but my machine still fails to recognise my
> wheel.

> The wheel does work .... in the calibration section of the stick my
> machine **thinks** is connected, the movements of the wheel do show up.

> The soundcard is an SBLive, (Full).

> This wheell **used** to work fine.

> Has anyone any ideas?

> --
> Cheers

> Mick

Well, seams to me that you are trying to use wrong software version. If
I remember correctly Sidewinder software v3.02 is for M$FF game port
version only.  USB version of M$FF needs SideWinder software v4.0 ->

Matti

Jagg

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Jagg » Mon, 14 May 2001 03:11:46

On Sat, 12 May 2001 21:02:19 +0300, Matti Jaakkonen


>Well, seams to me that you are trying to use wrong software version. If
>I remember correctly Sidewinder software v3.02 is for M$FF game port
>version only.  USB version of M$FF needs SideWinder software v4.0 ->

>Matti

Correct. And when you install that software it will ask for the Win9x
cdrom to install some other stuff for USB controller. It should still
be recognized even without the Sidewinder software installed though.
It was on my Win98 system.
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Jim

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Jim » Mon, 14 May 2001 04:02:50

Mick have you ever installed the Colin McRae 2 demo or full game? That
overwrites the Windows system file responsible for wheel input (hid.dll I
think) and means your Sidewinder wheel will not get recognised. I'll try and
dig out the posts detailing how to restore the original hid.dll if you
like.....?

Cheers
Jim


Jagg

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Jagg » Mon, 14 May 2001 06:59:14



Thx for reminding me of that. I have to reinstall CM2.0 and just
backed up my hid.dll from windows\system\ so that I can restore it
after installing CM2.0.
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Mick

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Mick » Mon, 14 May 2001 07:59:47


something about ...

Matti .... you are dead right! I just knew it had to be something simple
... turned out it was me all along!

Thanks

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Mick

Jesper Rasmusse

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Jesper Rasmusse » Tue, 15 May 2001 14:18:12

On Sat, 12 May 2001 21:02:19 +0300, Matti Jaakkonen

-snip-

Where can I get v. 4.0 or higher? - At Microsofts I can only find v.
3.02!

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Jagg

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Jagg » Tue, 15 May 2001 21:10:24

On Mon, 14 May 2001 07:18:12 +0200, Jesper Rasmussen


>Where can I get v. 4.0 or higher? - At Microsofts I can only find v.
>3.02!

It should be on the cdrom that came with your wheel. v4.0 is only
distributed with the hardware that needs it. Maybe contact MS and say
you lost your cdrom and they will send you a copy.
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Jesper Rasmusse

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Jesper Rasmusse » Wed, 16 May 2001 02:15:55


>>Where can I get v. 4.0 or higher? - At Microsofts I can only find v.
>>3.02!

>It should be on the cdrom that came with your wheel. v4.0 is only
>distributed with the hardware that needs it. Maybe contact MS and say
>you lost your cdrom and they will send you a copy.

As you already guessed I haven't got the CD (bought my wheel
secondhanded). Is there really no site where I can download the
software? Or would you (or someone else) email it directly to me (if
it's less than 10MBs in size)?

I could contact MS but I fear that it might take allmost forever for
them to send me another CD ;-(

TIA

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Mick

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Mick » Wed, 16 May 2001 03:43:24


mail1.stofanet.dk mumbled something about ...

> On Sat, 12 May 2001 21:02:19 +0300, Matti Jaakkonen

> -snip-

> >Well, seams to me that you are trying to use wrong software version. If
> >I remember correctly Sidewinder software v3.02 is for M$FF game port
> >version only.  USB version of M$FF needs SideWinder software v4.0 ->

> >Matti

> Where can I get v. 4.0 or higher? - At Microsofts I can only find v.
> 3.02!

If I can act the expert now ... (as if??) ... v4 is for USB connected
controllers. V3.02 is for gameport connected controllers. If you have a
USB version of a Sidewinder you should have got a CD with it with the v4
drivers.

I did, but fool that I am .... forgot!  So much for the sheer power of
the human brain eh?

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Mick

Jesper Rasmusse

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Jesper Rasmusse » Wed, 16 May 2001 14:19:50



Hi Mick,

I have the USB-version, but I have bought the wheel secondhanded and
didn't get the CD. I would appreciate it if someone would email me the
drivers (if it's less than 10MBs in size) or point me to a site where
I can download it.

TIA

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/Jesper Rasmussen
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Jagg

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Jagg » Wed, 16 May 2001 23:16:19

On Tue, 15 May 2001 07:19:50 +0200, Jesper Rasmussen


>I have the USB-version, but I have bought the wheel secondhanded and
>didn't get the CD. I would appreciate it if someone would email me the
>drivers (if it's less than 10MBs in size) or point me to a site where
>I can download it.

>TIA

Sorry, but it's over 20mb and if I was to do that then I would be
breaking the MS license agreement too. Contact the person you bought
it from and ask where the driver cdrom is. If you can't contact
him/her then you will have to contact MS.
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Jesper Rasmusse

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Jesper Rasmusse » Thu, 17 May 2001 00:44:35

On Mon, 14 May 2001 19:15:55 +0200, Jesper Rasmussen


>As you already guessed I haven't got the CD (bought my wheel
>secondhanded). Is there really no site where I can download the
>software? Or would you (or someone else) email it directly to me (if
>it's less than 10MBs in size)?

I've got the drivers now (thanks Matti ;o) ) so please disregard the
request above.

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Jesper Rasmusse

M$ FF Wheel problem.

by Jesper Rasmusse » Thu, 17 May 2001 00:45:10

On Tue, 15 May 2001 07:19:50 +0200, Jesper Rasmussen


>Hi Mick,

>I have the USB-version, but I have bought the wheel secondhanded and
>didn't get the CD. I would appreciate it if someone would email me the
>drivers (if it's less than 10MBs in size) or point me to a site where
>I can download it.

I've got the drivers now (thanks Matti ;o) ) so please disregard the
request above.

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/Jesper Rasmussen
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