rec.autos.simulators

by **Aubre** » Mon, 15 Nov 1999 04:00:00

The chicane is actually a slight right hand turn as I recall. Hmmm, maybe
it's left. Funny I can't remember. Try both. :) Just turn the wheel ever
so slightly and take it flat out. You can try raising the rideheight or
increasing bump ***s to get over the curb smoothly. It's a *** to
learn, but easy to master. In other words, once you figure it out, you'll
never have trouble there again. Good luck.

>Finally, after 10 months of owning the game, i'm trying to do a season
>in novice mode, pathetic eh? Race two, Monaco, how the hell do people
>get around there. I'm not stupid when it comes to going fast and
>consistent, but i guess that's Monza (21 lap race and never going above
>1:29, and 6 lapper at no more than 1:28, my best lap ever came out of
>that race, 1:28.38). I guess my biggest problem at Monaco was the
>chicane. How do you line it up and how can you go through it without
>hitting any hay, other than coasting in fourth? Oh well, Zandvoort
>next...

>Thanx to whom replays .

by **Shaun Robinso** » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Finally, after 10 months of owning the game, i'm trying to do a season
in novice mode, pathetic eh? Race two, Monaco, how the hell do people
get around there. I'm not stupid when it comes to going fast and
consistent, but i guess that's Monza (21 lap race and never going above
1:29, and 6 lapper at no more than 1:28, my best lap ever came out of
that race, 1:28.38). I guess my biggest problem at Monaco was the
chicane. How do you line it up and how can you go through it without
hitting any hay, other than coasting in fourth? Oh well, Zandvoort
next...

Thanx to whom replays .

by **Dan Belch** » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

You should take it flatout. I personally run along the left side wall almost
on the straight heading towards the chicane and just bounce over the sidewalk.

Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited
http://members.xoom.com/simcrash1/simcrash

by **Ricardo Nunnin** » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

...I remember asking the same question! The best hint I was
given was to look down the track to where you want to be,
not at the walls on either side of the chicane. Your hands
follow your eyes, and all that.

The other Zen-esque hint for Monaco that I've found helpful
is (can't remember who came up with this, they're probably
in a monastery in Tibet by now): don't think that the track
is too small for the car; rather, think that the car is too
big for the track.

by **Michael** » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

I have more problems with the Tabac corner which follows the chicane. I
can never quite make myself believe how much you have to slow down to
make that corner! The same applies to those first gear corners from
Mirabeau to the tunnel - it feels like you're crawling round.

- Michael

by **IMT** » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

>Subject: Monaco in GPL...

>Date: Sun, 14 November 1999 08:30 PM EST

>Finally, after 10 months of owning the game, i'm trying to do a season
>in novice mode, pathetic eh? Race two, Monaco, how the hell do people
>get around there.

Just remember Monaco is NOT a real fast track.... Do you watch the REAL race on
TV? Want to go faster?

Drive like it's raining... GRIN

Tom

by **asgeir nes?e** » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

You need to take it just a bit easy over the hill before the chicane, so
that your rear doesn't become instable/disturbed. You need to control the
rear of the car before you can take it flat out. When your rear is loaded
(you're on the throttle, right?), you can power through without thinking of
going off the throttle. And you need some angle to get through, but not
much.

And look far forward, don't get duped by the frightening hay bale and
fence. And when you manage to take it on the limit, you'll get a light
slide exiting, use this opportunity to wave to the beautiful redhead on the
right side...

---Asgeir---

> Finally, after 10 months of owning the game, i'm trying to do a season
> in novice mode, pathetic eh? Race two, Monaco, how the hell do people
> get around there. I'm not stupid when it comes to going fast and
> consistent, but i guess that's Monza (21 lap race and never going above
> 1:29, and 6 lapper at no more than 1:28, my best lap ever came out of
> that race, 1:28.38). I guess my biggest problem at Monaco was the
> chicane. How do you line it up and how can you go through it without
> hitting any hay, other than coasting in fourth? Oh well, Zandvoort
> next...

> Thanx to whom replays .

by **asgeir nes?e** » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

If you have examined this corner closely, you'll see that the road goes
downhill during the braking zone. The car gets a bit light when going over
the brow, and this is what makes the grip going bad. Do the majority of the
braking before the downhill, then ease off a bit while "jumping" over the
brow, before braking hard as the wheels get fully loaded again. If you do
this properly, you'll be able to go on the throttle extremely early and
heavily, and you'll carry a lot of speed through to the gas station. And
that's another difficult corner...

---Asgeir---

> > Finally, after 10 months of owning the game, i'm trying to do a season
> > in novice mode, pathetic eh? Race two, Monaco, how the hell do people
> > get around there. I'm not stupid when it comes to going fast and
> > consistent, but i guess that's Monza (21 lap race and never going above
> > 1:29, and 6 lapper at no more than 1:28, my best lap ever came out of
> > that race, 1:28.38). I guess my biggest problem at Monaco was the
> > chicane. How do you line it up and how can you go through it without
> > hitting any hay, other than coasting in fourth? Oh well, Zandvoort
> > next...

> I have more problems with the Tabac corner which follows the chicane. I
> can never quite make myself believe how much you have to slow down to
> make that corner! The same applies to those first gear corners from
> Mirabeau to the tunnel - it feels like you're crawling round.

> - Michael

by c » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

For me, part of what makes it so difficult is that I seem to get a bit of a
slow down in fps just before the little hump... I'm not sure why, caus there
doesn't seem to be too much going on graphics wise, but oh well. That's not
the only reason, mind you, its a *** of a section, but it certainly
doesn't help.
I tend to touch the brakes just before the hump then just cruise through...
i know I could take it faster, but not with any sort of consistency.
(missing it once is far worse than going through a little slow 15 times)
i'm doing around 1:30, don' tknow if that's quick or not.

> You need to take it just a bit easy over the hill before the chicane, so
> that your rear doesn't become instable/disturbed. You need to control the
> rear of the car before you can take it flat out. When your rear is loaded
> (you're on the throttle, right?), you can power through without thinking
of
> going off the throttle. And you need some angle to get through, but not
> much.

> And look far forward, don't get duped by the frightening hay bale and
> fence. And when you manage to take it on the limit, you'll get a light
> slide exiting, use this opportunity to wave to the beautiful redhead on
the
> right side...

> ---Asgeir---

> > Finally, after 10 months of owning the game, i'm trying to do a season
> > in novice mode, pathetic eh? Race two, Monaco, how the hell do people
> > get around there. I'm not stupid when it comes to going fast and
> > consistent, but i guess that's Monza (21 lap race and never going above
> > 1:29, and 6 lapper at no more than 1:28, my best lap ever came out of
> > that race, 1:28.38). I guess my biggest problem at Monaco was the
> > chicane. How do you line it up and how can you go through it without
> > hitting any hay, other than coasting in fourth? Oh well, Zandvoort
> > next...

> > Thanx to whom replays .

by **Jan Verschuere** » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

LOL... ;-)

Asgeir forgot to mention you have to let go of conventional wisdom (use the
whole track) and line up the chicane from the middle of the track (or even
slighty more left than that). You do not need to turn much at all and, if
you do as Asgeir says and keep your tail in check over the crest, you can
take it under full power.

Jan.
----

> <snip> And when you manage to take it on the limit, you'll get a light
> slide exiting, use this opportunity to wave to the beautiful redhead on
the
> right side...

> ---Asgeir---

> <snip>

by c » Tue, 16 Nov 1999 04:00:00

full power?
from teh tunnel all the way through? Hmmm.... must practice monaco.....

speedracer

(i just noticed the book says the brabham is the best choice for monaco any
thoughts?)
I'm a lotus guy (big surprise!)

> LOL... ;-)

> Asgeir forgot to mention you have to let go of conventional wisdom (use
the
> whole track) and line up the chicane from the middle of the track (or even
> slighty more left than that). You do not need to turn much at all and, if
> you do as Asgeir says and keep your tail in check over the crest, you can
> take it under full power.

> Jan.
> ----

> > <snip> And when you manage to take it on the limit, you'll get a light
> > slide exiting, use this opportunity to wave to the beautiful redhead on
> the
> > right side...

> > ---Asgeir---

> > <snip>

by **Jan Verschuere** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

No, you have to lift for the crest of the hill, but on a light fuel load
this is just a confidence lift. IMO, to drive the chicane with any level of
consistency at all, it has to be done under power. Oh, eh... and make sure
the car doesn't bottom out too heavily or you'll lose it on the exit.

Another tip is to set the car up to only use 4 gears instead of 5... that
takes off about 3 tenths a lap (and about 600 shifts per race).

That being said, I'm personally only capable of 1m30's, but I lose the time
elsewhere (notably at St. Devote and in the *** section).

Brabham's are very good at Monaco (mostly because they're small and pack a
lot of grunt), so are the Ferrari's. As far as the Lotus goes, it's sure
nimble enough for Monaco, but it's power has nowhere to go and it's
frangibility works against it.

Jan.
----

> full power?
> from teh tunnel all the way through? Hmmm.... must practice monaco.....

> speedracer

> (i just noticed the book says the brabham is the best choice for monaco
any
> thoughts?)
> I'm a lotus guy (big surprise!)

> <snip>

by **AKC** » Wed, 17 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Don't let your eyes become fixed on the chicane itself - look well beyond
to where you are going. This helps me a lot.
Cheers, Andrew.

>Finally, after 10 months of owning the game, i'm trying to do a season
>in novice mode, pathetic eh? Race two, Monaco, how the hell do people
>get around there. I'm not stupid when it comes to going fast and
>consistent, but i guess that's Monza (21 lap race and never going above
>1:29, and 6 lapper at no more than 1:28, my best lap ever came out of
>that race, 1:28.38). I guess my biggest problem at Monaco was the
>chicane. How do you line it up and how can you go through it without
>hitting any hay, other than coasting in fourth? Oh well, Zandvoort
>next...

>Thanx to whom replays .

by **Woodie** » Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:00:00

Wow, that's where I'm best. I love popping over the hill at *** 'cause I
know I'm going to kick ass until the tunnel.

Don McCorkle

by **Nils Borngraeb** » Thu, 18 Nov 1999 04:00:00

>Finally, after 10 months of owning the game, i'm trying to do a season
>in novice mode, pathetic eh? Race two, Monaco, how the hell do people
>get around there. I'm not stupid when it comes to going fast and
>consistent, but i guess that's Monza (21 lap race and never going above
>1:29, and 6 lapper at no more than 1:28, my best lap ever came out of
>that race, 1:28.38). I guess my biggest problem at Monaco was the
>chicane. How do you line it up and how can you go through it without
>hitting any hay, other than coasting in fourth? Oh well, Zandvoort
>next...

For me it helps to change my view. I set the drivingView variable in the
player.ini to '12'. So i can see the nose of the car without loosing the
feeling of driving inside (like the nintendo-view). You'll loose the
mirrors and the ability to look right or left.

Nils