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GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

Rob Berryhi

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by Rob Berryhi » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Okay, I've just been watching 'Grand Prix' the movie and I want to
race at Monaco. Is it definite that this course will not be in the
sim?

*Fingers crossed.*

Spudgu

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by Spudgu » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00



Especially since it's possible to jump the barriers... *splosh*

:-)

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DPHI

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by DPHI » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00

>If there is no Monaco on this sim I'll consider it a disgrace.  Monaco is<BR>
>the jewel of Formula One.  Papyrus should be crucified if they do not put
>it<BR>
>in the sim.<BR>
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You can blame the Principality of Monaco for this situation, NOT Papy. It's all
about licensing.

Don

-=MAX

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by -=MAX » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


>You can blame the Principality of Monaco for this situation, NOT Papy. It's all
>about licensing.

>Don

Oh, bullshit... I suppose it's some sort of *** too. THey let GP2 and
Ubi f1RS use it cause they're nice guys, but Papyrus represents the evil
empire so we'll add a ridiculous fee...
Makes sense to me.
DPHI

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by DPHI » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Fine...shoot the messanger. Happy Easter to you to.

-=MAX

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by -=MAX » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


>>Oh, bullshit.

>Fine...shoot the messanger. Happy Easter to you to.

Were you just born stupid, or did you have to work at it?

GPL when released is gonna sell a gajillion copies. Figure
they sell 250,000 copies ( not unreasonable) at 50.00 each
Thats a gross revenue of  12.5 MILLION dollars.
Now tell me about not being able to afford a liscencing fee
( if there even is one) when every other F1 sim seems to
have Monaco.

BTW you now owe me a fee for reading your drivel.

ymenar

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by ymenar » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00

-=MAX=- wrote :

Gross revenues to CUC Software.   They are known to not be very generous on
the pocket.  THey let the Indianapolis Motor Speedway and also the Daytona
International Speedway slip under their hands to SEGA of America.

There is number of reason the FIA and the Monaco Principality don't want to
see a track modelled into the game.  From the dangerous layout of these old
days, the security that was laking. If CUC doesn't offer a higher price than
other titles, why should they accept to model it ??

Oh and btw, for those who tried Andretti Racing (old one) on the PSX, check
out the track layout. Some of them are ACTUAL tracks (I can recall
Interlagos) but under different name and graphics.  They are really close to
actual illegal copyrighting.

I'm sure you will buy it even if it's not in the simulator.  Shame to you if
not. There is enough challenge besides.

Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/
Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)

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Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)

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Barton Spencer Brow

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by Barton Spencer Brow » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


>Papyrus should be crucified if they do not put it in the sim.

According to you, Papyrus should be crucified anyway .. although I note
that your statement at least acknowledges that what you've been berating
from press and pulpit is NOT the actual sim, but a demo. Keep going with
that thought...

Bart brown

Ronald Stoe

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by Ronald Stoe » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> If there is no Monaco on this sim I'll consider it a disgrace.  Monaco is
> the jewel of Formula One.  Papyrus should be crucified if they do not put it
> in the sim.


> >Okay, I've just been watching 'Grand Prix' the movie and I want to
> >race at Monaco. Is it definite that this course will not be in the
> >sim?

> >*Fingers crossed.*

Wow, somebody is on a crusade here, ain't he?

l8r
ronny

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Barton Spencer Brow

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by Barton Spencer Brow » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Here we see, once again, that the people who are the most deliberately
insulting are, curiously enough, those who hide their identities behind
exceptionally lame "spam blockers". Trolling has become such an art form
in this NG that rank amateurs need not apply...

BTW, the paraphrasis regarding spammers which you ascribe to "B.
Franklin" is actually a (crudely) disfigured line from W. Shakespeare.
If you're going to affect a level of literary erudition to which you
clearly have not risen, at least get the attribution right...

Bart Brown

John Walla

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by John Walla » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00

On Sun, 12 Apr 1998 10:03:50 -0400, "Charles Mak"


>If there is no Monaco on this sim I'll consider it a disgrace.  Monaco is
>the jewel of Formula One.  Papyrus should be crucified if they do not put it
>in the sim.

Isn't that just a TOUCH extreme? I couldn't even crucify MS for
releasing CPR without any tracks that could be driven realistically so
I'm unlikely to consider such atrocities for anyone else.

Monaco is acknowledged by F1 drivers to be the worst track of the
year, and to say Monaco is the "raison d'etre" or the "jewel in the
crown" is to exhibit a spectacular misunderstanding of the sport.
Either that or simply a wish to moan about everything related to GPL.
Shall we take a quick vote on which it is?

AFAIK there is nothing announced one way or the other about Monaco, so
unless you are a manic depressive please wait to be disappointed
before being so.

That's quite enough attention for now.

Cheers!
John

Barton Spencer Brow

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by Barton Spencer Brow » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> You've "got a spectacular misunderstanding" about what Monaco represents to the F1 community.  The cache of Monaco is so great that it has remained on the F1 calendar year in year out despite the fact that it is totally unsuitable for a present day F1 race.>>

Dear God,

Without argument, Monaco has a "cachet" (the word for which you were
unsuccesfully groping); but truth oft wears a wry face, and your
assertion that Monaco is "totally unsuitable for a present day F1 race"
is about the only sensible thing I've seen you post yet, though I'm sure
you meant it entirely differently: since we're talking about F1 races of
a generation ago rather than today, perhaps your circuitous reasoning
has a logic you didn't intend, or quite possibly even perceive.

Be that as it may, in the last few years the Automobile Club of Monaco,
like the ACO, FIA, and IMS, have awakened to the cachet of their own
venue, and started demanding licensing fees for the use of their name
and various "trademark" elements of the yearly GP. If you don't think
that's true -- and you've apparently convinced yourself that WHATEVER
you think has the imprimatur of the One Truth -- you might want to
contact M. Roy Hulsbergen, of Interactive Media Development S. C. S. in
Monaco. I'm sure he'd be glad to explain it all to you.

<<You are so wrong. Why are people in this NG so misguided?>>

Do you troll in every newsgroup, or just this one?

Bart Brown

Barton Spencer Brow

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by Barton Spencer Brow » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> Just a thought. But recreating a race track that was actually city streets in the condition it was in over 30 years ago would be a task of extrem difficulty.>>

The only truly major change since 1967, other than the merely scenic,
has been the re-routing of the quayside straight around the new swimming
pool complex. Certainly the tunnel looks completely different, Rascasse
is a new name but a very minor variation of its former trajectory, and
the crowds are most emphatically not as well-dressed. Whatever else of
consequence is easily recreated from the voluminous pictorial record of
the circuit, probably the most-photographed more-or-less 2 miles of
urban streets in the history of the world.

Bart Brown

Earl

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by Earl » Mon, 13 Apr 1998 04:00:00


Hmmm...you don't suppose Bandini's fatal '67 accident would have anything
to do with this decision, would you???

Earl

Bruce Kennewel

GPL: Is it final that there is no Monaco?

by Bruce Kennewel » Tue, 14 Apr 1998 04:00:00


> If there is no Monaco on this sim I'll consider it a disgrace.  Monaco is
> the jewel of Formula One.  Papyrus should be crucified if they do not put it
> in the sim.

The JEWEL OF FORMULA ONE?!!!!!!!!!Come off it!!
Monaco is the thorn in the soft, fleshy part of Formula One.

--
Bruce.
(At home)


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