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Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

Barry Cuf

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Barry Cuf » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00

Hi there I have GPL and cant seem to get it to run in 3d mode, I have
version 1.2.
Any help please

himrli..

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by himrli.. » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00

GPL only runs with Rendition Verite (ancient) or 3dfx.  The nvidia TNT
performace is pure pants.



>Hi there I have GPL and cant seem to get it to run in 3d mode, I have
>version 1.2.
>Any help please


Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....
Kev

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Kev » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00

What rubbish!
I (and many others) run it on a TNT2 with 36fps, all the details on, 19
cars. No problems at all.

Kev


> GPL only runs with Rendition Verite (ancient) or 3dfx.  The nvidia TNT
> performace is pure pants.



> >Hi there I have GPL and cant seem to get it to run in 3d mode, I have
> >version 1.2.
> >Any help please

> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

Ryan Mitchle

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Ryan Mitchle » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00


Not actually. I have a TNT (1) running on a PII 350 overclocked to 392 and
the performance is great.

Ryan

Richard Walke

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Richard Walke » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00



What CPU/motherboard are you using to do this?!?!

--
Richard.

"The magical mystery tour is coming to take you away."

Tim O

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Tim O » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00



Do you have the OpenGL patch?
Go to www.papy.com and look for it. Once you have it installed, select
OpenGL from the menu.
There is some info in the README file that explains how to minimize
the problem with flashing mirrors that occurs with the TNT cards.

Don't believe Mr. Pants. The game runs OK with a TNT 1.

Tim

himrli..

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by himrli.. » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00

And how does its running on a TNT 2 help someone with a TNT 1?  I have
a TNT 1 and GPL runs so poorly as to be undrivable.  (It currently
sits safely on a shelf, awaiting the day when I feel moved to grapple
once again with a 3dfx card.)

My point was that the game was built for a different set of video
protocols and that the Open GL patch is not all that impressive.
Especially not when compared to the performance possible with games
built from the ground up for D3D.  


>What rubbish!
>I (and many others) run it on a TNT2 with 36fps, all the details on, 19
>cars. No problems at all.

>Kev


>> GPL only runs with Rendition Verite (ancient) or 3dfx.  The nvidia TNT
>> performace is pure pants.



>> >Hi there I have GPL and cant seem to get it to run in 3d mode, I have
>> >version 1.2.
>> >Any help please

>> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....
Kev

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Kev » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00

PIII-600
TNT2 Ultra 770
128Mb RAM

Kev




> > I (and many others) run it on a TNT2 with 36fps, all the details on, 19
> > cars. No problems at all.

> What CPU/motherboard are you using to do this?!?!

> --
> Richard.

> "The magical mystery tour is coming to take you away."

Karl Zose

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Karl Zose » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00





> > I (and many others) run it on a TNT2 with 36fps, all the details on, 19
> > cars. No problems at all.

> What CPU/motherboard are you using to do this?!?!

I have the same framerate in 1024x768
I use ASUS P2B

128 MB Ram
ASUS TNT1 (!!) - overclocked

ok, i had to reduce the mirror refresh rate, but is this really such a big
problem?
The game runs perfect on my machine.
No use buying another videocard just for GPL

Karl Zose

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Karl Zose » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00

What on earth are u doing wrong?
I am totally honest about the performance of GPL on my system, so Im puzzled
why it doesnt work on yours...

I have 36 FPS in 1024x768
I use ASUS P2B

128 MB Ram
ASUS TNT1 (!!) - overclocked

Only the start gives a lower framerate (20FPS)

...

> And how does its running on a TNT 2 help someone with a TNT 1?  I have
> a TNT 1 and GPL runs so poorly as to be undrivable.  (It currently
> sits safely on a shelf, awaiting the day when I feel moved to grapple
> once again with a 3dfx card.)

> My point was that the game was built for a different set of video
> protocols and that the Open GL patch is not all that impressive.
> Especially not when compared to the performance possible with games
> built from the ground up for D3D.


> >What rubbish!
> >I (and many others) run it on a TNT2 with 36fps, all the details on, 19
> >cars. No problems at all.

> >Kev


> >> GPL only runs with Rendition Verite (ancient) or 3dfx.  The nvidia TNT
> >> performace is pure pants.



> >> >Hi there I have GPL and cant seem to get it to run in 3d mode, I have
> >> >version 1.2.
> >> >Any help please

> >> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

himrli..

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by himrli.. » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00

I seriously doubt I am doing anything wrong.

It is my experience that the combination of a TNT 1 and a PII-300 is
just not enough for GPL.  (The CPU might be OK, but not with that
video card.)  So, I'll either wait until I have the horsepower to
experience GPL as something other than a slideshow or I will spend my
time enjoying all the more current motorsport alternatives that don't
require quite so much brute force.  Like, for example, NFS: PU.



>What on earth are u doing wrong?
>I am totally honest about the performance of GPL on my system, so Im puzzled
>why it doesnt work on yours...

>I have 36 FPS in 1024x768
>I use ASUS P2B

>128 MB Ram
>ASUS TNT1 (!!) - overclocked

>Only the start gives a lower framerate (20FPS)

>...
>> And how does its running on a TNT 2 help someone with a TNT 1?  I have
>> a TNT 1 and GPL runs so poorly as to be undrivable.  (It currently
>> sits safely on a shelf, awaiting the day when I feel moved to grapple
>> once again with a 3dfx card.)

>> My point was that the game was built for a different set of video
>> protocols and that the Open GL patch is not all that impressive.
>> Especially not when compared to the performance possible with games
>> built from the ground up for D3D.


>> >What rubbish!
>> >I (and many others) run it on a TNT2 with 36fps, all the details on, 19
>> >cars. No problems at all.

>> >Kev


>> >> GPL only runs with Rendition Verite (ancient) or 3dfx.  The nvidia TNT
>> >> performace is pure pants.



>> >> >Hi there I have GPL and cant seem to get it to run in 3d mode, I have
>> >> >version 1.2.
>> >> >Any help please

>> >> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

>> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....
Simon Brow

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Simon Brow » Wed, 24 May 2000 04:00:00

Absolutely, just get the OpenGL Beta2 patch from www.papy.com and turn down
the mirror refresh rate to every 3rd frame (see the readme file for the
OpenGL patch to see how to do this).
Jay

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Jay » Thu, 25 May 2000 04:00:00

I would tend to agree, that a TNT1 isn't well suited to running GPL, at
least not on a mid-range to poor system.

I've got a PII 266, and when I attempted to run it with my STB Velocity 4400
16 meg AGP card, I could only get the chase view to work, and at that with
graphics turned down to about 1/2 level, no mirrors or***pit features
whatsoever, and running with a full field of 19 cars I could only get around
15 fps in traffic.

Running all alone I could get 26-30 fps, which for this challenging of a
game just doesn't cut it.

I added a Voodoo II 12 meg and volia! That did the trick, so unless your
TNT1 is on a kick but system, like a PIII 700+ system, with no less than 128
meg of ram you'll be dissapointed.

Kev

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by Kev » Thu, 25 May 2000 04:00:00


> And how does its running on a TNT 2 help someone with a TNT 1?

It doesn't directly, but you stated that it ONLY runs with a 3dfx card.
Which isn't true. I have a friend who runs GPL on a TNT1 with no
problems. You CAN play it perfectly well with TNT1/2 cards.

Yes of course it was built for 3dfx cards but the openGL patch works
fine. I was trying to save the guy some money. He can run GPL with the
system he already has. There are plenty of folk who have nightmares with
voodoo cards and GPL too judging by the number of posts in here.

Kev


> >What rubbish!
> >I (and many others) run it on a TNT2 with 36fps, all the details on, 19
> >cars. No problems at all.

> >Kev


> >> GPL only runs with Rendition Verite (ancient) or 3dfx.  The nvidia TNT
> >> performace is pure pants.



> >> >Hi there I have GPL and cant seem to get it to run in 3d mode, I have
> >> >version 1.2.
> >> >Any help please

> >> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

himrli..

Can I run GPL on a TNT 1 ???

by himrli.. » Thu, 25 May 2000 04:00:00



>> And how does its running on a TNT 2 help someone with a TNT 1?
>It doesn't directly, but you stated that it ONLY runs with a 3dfx card.
>Which isn't true. I have a friend who runs GPL on a TNT1 with no
>problems. You CAN play it perfectly well with TNT1/2 cards.

OK, so we've established that a TNT1 and TNT2 are different cards.
And I did say that GPL only runs on Rendition and 3dfx cards.  Maybe I
should have said "only runs out of the box on Rendition and 3dfx
cards."  

What kind of system does your friend have?  I'll bet it's better than
a PII-300.  I think others here have stated that a TNT card is OK as
long as you have lots and lots of CPU behind it.

I don't remember him saying what system he has.  If he has a system
like mine (TNT1. PII-300) he's not going to have much luck.  

Trying to save him some money is laudable.  Even so, it's been my
experience that there are some things one cannot do on the cheap.  It
might actually be less expensive, in terms of cost and time ("Once
you've downloaded and applied the patch, you can begin editing the
CORE.INI file....") to buy a low-end voodoo card rather than trying to
fiddle a TNT into behaving itself, especially on a slower system.

No question!  <g>  Voodoo no longer seems like a mainstream card.  And
GPL seems more and more like a brilliant and finicky orphan.  Keeping
it going as systems and system standards continue to evolve feels a
bit like keeping any rare vehicle roadworthy.  For those who've come
to love it, all the effort is amply rewarded.  For those who've come
to the party late, getting everything to work can be something of a
challenge.    

>Kev


>> >What rubbish!
>> >I (and many others) run it on a TNT2 with 36fps, all the details on, 19
>> >cars. No problems at all.

>> >Kev


>> >> GPL only runs with Rendition Verite (ancient) or 3dfx.  The nvidia TNT
>> >> performace is pure pants.



>> >> >Hi there I have GPL and cant seem to get it to run in 3d mode, I have
>> >> >version 1.2.
>> >> >Any help please

>> >> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

>> Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

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