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Attention: NTT Drivers

Jack Ramb

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Jack Ramb » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

BellSouth.net, the ISP for the NTT server, appears to be experiencing an
outage with their ADSL service. Beginning last night, just prior to the NTT
Americas Division qualifying race, ADSL service became unavailable. The
problem appears to be significant enough to cause their tech support lines
to be overloaded, as I have *yet* to be able to talk to a tech, *enjoying*
the interminable hold.

I will advise, when the problem is resolved and our regular schedule of
qualifying races can be resumed.

Jack Rambo

Jack Ramb

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Jack Ramb » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

As I wrestled with this ADSL service outage, I had some time to contemplate.
Hosting six*** 2-hour events per week, reviewing race replays, compiling
stats, writing stories, dealing with a mountain of correspondence, and
generally trying to accommodate racers on three continents left me with
little time for sleeping and less time still for quite contemplation.

As a software developer, a mechanical engineer, a former president of a
chapter of the Society of Automotive Engineers, a former sports car racer,
and a guy who had a four-foot poster of Jacky Ickx in a Ferrari 312
plastered to his bedroom wall as a ***ager around 1970, you might guess
that I would fall head over heels in love with this thing we call GPL. And I
did indeed!

I saw the unbridled enthusiasm for the product on RAS, and, with perhaps my
newly-acquired passion getting the best of me, I decided that GPL and other
quality road-racing sims to follow needed a structured, scheduled body of
races and racing organization/sanctioning body that would form a nice
complement to fabulous VROC. I envisioned an organization that would offer
an extensive schedule of organized races, far beyond just the popular NTT
World Championship series...races that would eventually be segregated by
driver category so that everyone would have an opportunity to race with
drivers of comparable skill level...everyone would have a chance to win or
at least finish near the front! And it was clear that unless someone
somewhere was willing to commit to developing such a beast, it just wouldn't
happen and online racing would not realize its full potential. In short, I
saw a small business opportunity in an activity for which I had generous
amounts of enthusiasm.

And so the NTT series began, as a test bed for what I hoped would become the
RaceLive! network. My wife thought I was nuts. I tried to explain to her
that the world was full of enthusiastic people like me who had invested
hundreds, if not thousands of dollars in the perfect sim racing setup who
would not hesitate to pay a nominal licensing fee and perhaps a small
monthly activity fee to be part of a truly professionally-executed
structured racing program. I pointed out the level of activity that NROS
enjoyed and argued that the road-racing community needed something
comparable.

Well, it appears that perhaps my wife was right. My conclusion at this point
is that there are just too few online road racing enthusiasts out there to
sustain even the smallest of businesses. Even granddaddy VROC, with it's
roughly 500 drivers who have joined the Paddock, appears to lack sufficient
volume to sustain a small business. So it's with great sadness that I
announce the conclusion of the NTT series. While it's been incredibly
demanding, I hope you have enjoyed it as much as I have. I'll certainly miss
the sense of camaraderie that I saw develop in a short period of time
amongst the NTT drivers. It seems a shame that we can't sustain that, but
I'm afraid it's time for me to get back on with my life and reintroduce
myself to my wife! Warmest regards to all of you and keep "nailing those
tracks"!

Jack Rambo

Mike Buckle

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Mike Buckle » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Jack,

Many thanks for the races and excellent hosting you have given these
past few weeks, its been VERY enjoyable!
Hope to see you on VROC

--
Mike Buckley    
Cotswold Pig Development Co Ltd
Tel: 44 (0)1472 371591  Fax: 44 (0)1472 371208

Chris Schlette

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Chris Schlette » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Where? I'd do it in a heartbeat.  However, I think that perhaps GPL is
perhaps the wrong sim to do it with.  Its very demanding and unless you have
lots of time to kill you won't be able to race and have fun even against
less skilled folks.  A sim that scales better from amuteur up to "pro" would
work better.  Not to mention, to really do it you would need help from Papy
to be able to set up dedicated servers, be able to scale the physics for
different level of racing groups (brings more people into the community) and
modern cars.  Perhaps an F1 or CART sim would generate more enthusiasm world
wide than an older GP sim.   NROS would fold in an instant if it wasn't for
the totally large and fanatical NASCAR fan base. :)

Jeff Eilan

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Jeff Eilan » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

I just wanted to take a minute to say thanks Jack, I looked forward to the
NTT races every day , I will Miss them , and I don't want to spend any more
time with my wife , so you know where I'll be , Looking for a good host and
freinds to race with.
  Happy Motoring !!
Jeff

> > It seems a shame that we can't sustain that, but
> >I'm afraid it's time for me to get back on with my life and reintroduce
> >myself to my wife! Warmest regards to all of you and keep "nailing those
> >tracks"!

> Jack,

> Many thanks for the races and excellent hosting you have given these
> past few weeks, its been VERY enjoyable!
> Hope to see you on VROC

> --
> Mike Buckley
> Cotswold Pig Development Co Ltd
> Tel: 44 (0)1472 371591  Fax: 44 (0)1472 371208


Steve Blankensh

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Steve Blankensh » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

I want to add my thanks here for all your considerable efforts.  NTT
has been tons of fun.  An excellent host, top-notch crowd, and great
racing; certainly far above the norm.  I wish my pitiful phone lines
had allowed me to enjoy more of it.  I hope to see your name on the
VROC race list, as it's been great racing with you.

We sim racers have lost a good thing; it's too bad there aren't more
of us.........

Well done, Jack!

Steve B.
Remove "edy" from address for email

Mitc

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Mitc » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Im very saddened to hear this Jack!  But it was a tremendous series while it
lasted.  I do hope to see you racing on VROC and we can still enjoy a pickup
race or 3...VBG

Mitch Alatorre


> As I wrestled with this ADSL service outage, I had some time to
contemplate.
> Hosting six*** 2-hour events per week, reviewing race replays, compiling
> stats, writing stories, dealing with a mountain of correspondence, and
> generally trying to accommodate racers on three continents left me with
> little time for sleeping and less time still for quite contemplation.

> As a software developer, a mechanical engineer, a former president of a
> chapter of the Society of Automotive Engineers, a former sports car racer,
> and a guy who had a four-foot poster of Jacky Ickx in a Ferrari 312
> plastered to his bedroom wall as a ***ager around 1970, you might guess
> that I would fall head over heels in love with this thing we call GPL. And
I
> did indeed!

> I saw the unbridled enthusiasm for the product on RAS, and, with perhaps
my
> newly-acquired passion getting the best of me, I decided that GPL and
other
> quality road-racing sims to follow needed a structured, scheduled body of
> races and racing organization/sanctioning body that would form a nice
> complement to fabulous VROC. I envisioned an organization that would offer
> an extensive schedule of organized races, far beyond just the popular NTT
> World Championship series...races that would eventually be segregated by
> driver category so that everyone would have an opportunity to race with
> drivers of comparable skill level...everyone would have a chance to win or
> at least finish near the front! And it was clear that unless someone
> somewhere was willing to commit to developing such a beast, it just
wouldn't
> happen and online racing would not realize its full potential. In short, I
> saw a small business opportunity in an activity for which I had generous
> amounts of enthusiasm.

> And so the NTT series began, as a test bed for what I hoped would become
the
> RaceLive! network. My wife thought I was nuts. I tried to explain to her
> that the world was full of enthusiastic people like me who had invested
> hundreds, if not thousands of dollars in the perfect sim racing setup who
> would not hesitate to pay a nominal licensing fee and perhaps a small
> monthly activity fee to be part of a truly professionally-executed
> structured racing program. I pointed out the level of activity that NROS
> enjoyed and argued that the road-racing community needed something
> comparable.

> Well, it appears that perhaps my wife was right. My conclusion at this
point
> is that there are just too few online road racing enthusiasts out there to
> sustain even the smallest of businesses. Even granddaddy VROC, with it's
> roughly 500 drivers who have joined the Paddock, appears to lack
sufficient
> volume to sustain a small business. So it's with great sadness that I
> announce the conclusion of the NTT series. While it's been incredibly
> demanding, I hope you have enjoyed it as much as I have. I'll certainly
miss
> the sense of camaraderie that I saw develop in a short period of time
> amongst the NTT drivers. It seems a shame that we can't sustain that, but
> I'm afraid it's time for me to get back on with my life and reintroduce
> myself to my wife! Warmest regards to all of you and keep "nailing those
> tracks"!

> Jack Rambo


Greger Hut

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Greger Hut » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00



It's a great shame. I'll miss those races and especially the nice
people who raced in the NTT series. Anyway, I can understand your
decision, Jack. You've done a great job and thanks for hosting great
races! I hope I can see you and the other NTT racers at VROC or maybe
in some other leagues. Thanks!
(I'll miss those race reports also ;-))

--
Greger Huttu

Scott B. Huste

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Scott B. Huste » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Chris,

You are just green with envy that nobody cares enough to make a CART sim and
CART hasnt created a CARTOS (CART Online Series) !!  ;)

ROFLMAO

Scott
PA-Scott
G.T.S. Racing - http://home.earthlink.net/~sbhusted/GTS/gts.html


> NROS would fold in an instant if it wasn't for
> the totally large and fanatical NASCAR fan base. :)

--
Scott B. Husted
ICQ# 4395450
Chris Schlette

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Chris Schlette » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Oh yes...so I that guys named Rob20 can come and wreck everyone. ;)

Btw, what sim did Papy make FIRST? :)  Yes, you guessed it INDYCARS.  ;)



Pat Dotso

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Pat Dotso » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00



> >amongst the NTT drivers. It seems a shame that we can't sustain that, but
> >I'm afraid it's time for me to get back on with my life and reintroduce
> >myself to my wife! Warmest regards to all of you and keep "nailing those
> >tracks"!

I hope you keep on racing Jack!

The NTT schedule was a bit too demanding - 2 hours
a night, 6 nights a week?  That's just too much racing, even
for me :)  For those who have been running GPL for a while,
running the same track night after night can get stale.
Sometimes I just want to do something else.

I think that something like the NTT series, racing 2
official qualifying races a week and one final, would be
easier to manage, and wouldn't burn out the participants.
Races could be held the other nights of the week, but
they should be practice races and not point events.

The big thing that is missing from online racing is a
tangible reward for effort.  There is no reason why
sim-related companies shouldn't be handing out prizes
for an event like NTT.  I've never understood why
more of that didn't happen with all the league racing
on NROS.  Only a few series have ever awarded prizes.

--
Pat Dotson
IMPACT Motorsports
http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html

Marty U'Re

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Marty U'Re » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Jack,

Thank you for your efforts organizing the NTT series. You've contributed greatly
to the brave new world of online racing.

Perhaps I should also thank you for ending. Anyone know of a GPL anonymous
self-help program?

Marty

Scott B. Huste

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Scott B. Huste » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00


> Oh yes...so I that guys named Rob20 can come and wreck everyone. ;)

ROFLMAO - and what happens if he purchases CART Racing III and joins CARTOS
???   ;)

Well at least we know they learned from their mistakes!!   LOL  ;)

Besides.. you have CART Precision Racing dont you ???  ;)    OK - that was
just cruel.  Im sorry.  ;)  Thats like having NASCAR Revolting, I mean
Revolution.

Scott
PA-Scott
G.T.S. Racing - http://home.earthlink.net/~sbhusted/GTS/gts.html
--
Scott B. Husted
ICQ# 4395450

Scott B. Huste

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Scott B. Huste » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

We at SCORL offered several prizes to winner of individual races as well as the
division champion.

In the G.T.S. Division of SCORL... there was sponsors for 3 of the 14 races.

It is just remarkeably hard to get sponsors to donate prizes =(

The development of the "centralized" online racing community is just not
materializing.

Scott
PA-Scott
G.T.S. Racing - http://home.earthlink.net/~sbhusted/GTS/gts.html




> > >amongst the NTT drivers. It seems a shame that we can't sustain that, but
> > >I'm afraid it's time for me to get back on with my life and reintroduce
> > >myself to my wife! Warmest regards to all of you and keep "nailing those
> > >tracks"!

> I hope you keep on racing Jack!

> The NTT schedule was a bit too demanding - 2 hours
> a night, 6 nights a week?  That's just too much racing, even
> for me :)  For those who have been running GPL for a while,
> running the same track night after night can get stale.
> Sometimes I just want to do something else.

> I think that something like the NTT series, racing 2
> official qualifying races a week and one final, would be
> easier to manage, and wouldn't burn out the participants.
> Races could be held the other nights of the week, but
> they should be practice races and not point events.

> The big thing that is missing from online racing is a
> tangible reward for effort.  There is no reason why
> sim-related companies shouldn't be handing out prizes
> for an event like NTT.  I've never understood why
> more of that didn't happen with all the league racing
> on NROS.  Only a few series have ever awarded prizes.

> --
> Pat Dotson
> IMPACT Motorsports
> http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html

--
Scott B. Husted
ICQ# 4395450
Chris Schlette

Attention: NTT Drivers

by Chris Schlette » Sat, 10 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Mmms...no, because CARTOS would be the next generation OS. ;)

<points you to Nascar Revultion>  Heck, CPR was better than that.


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