Jack,
Thanks for the fun races I had with NTT. Although I didn't join
lately, I HATE Monaco, I'll mis those races.
Remco
Jack,
Thanks for the fun races I had with NTT. Although I didn't join
lately, I HATE Monaco, I'll mis those races.
Remco
I disagree, GPL is IMHO in theory THE right sim to do it with because it
requires a certain level of skill and commitment from the driver. GPL was
the first racing game I have been playing since GP2. What makes GPL so
special is only
to a small extend the simulation of a special era of Formula 1 racing. More
important than that is that it does what every other racing game has failed
until now. GPL is demanding enough to form a own kind of Sport, a racing
environment existing independently from the 1967 F1 season it simulates.
Jack saw that and also the poorly developed multiplayer aspect of the sim
and the tremendous possibilities that this form of virtual racing holds. I
think Jack was simply ahead of his time. At the current stage GPL is
technically not advanced enough to provide more than (really good) fun and a
playfield for enthusiasts who are willing to sacrifice their free time
without material gain. In a few years, when internet access has become more
popular (it's still incredibly
expensive here in Europe, so I have already paid more than a "nominal fee"
just for internet access, btw I really would've prefered Jack to receive
that
money instead of my greedy phone-company ), Jack's vision will ultimately
prove to
be a profitable business. To do it all by oneself and with a sim that is
still flawed by
lousy Internet connections and loads of little bugs to work out was as it,
sadly, seems,
doomed to fail. I could't believe the amount of work and enthusiasm this guy
showed for the cause of taking online-racing an important step forward, it
completely got me and i haven't missed a race of the newly formed NTT world
championship, even started developing a website to boost NTT popularity in
Germany.
Finally, I want to really thank you Jack for all the good racing that was
going on on your server, and hope you can prove your wife one day
that you got a brilliant idea too early. (maybe with GPL 2, when
it arrives ;-)). Perhaps we can one day hail Jack Rambo as the guy who
pioneered it all....
Hope to see you on the track again real soon...
Alex
p.s: The upside of things is : I will have more free time next week than
originally planned, could use that opportunity to reintroduce myself to my
Girlfriend :-)
I disagree, GPL is IMHO in theory THE right sim to do it with because it
requires a certain level of skill and commitment from the driver. GPL was
the first racing game I have been playing since GP2. What makes GPL so
special is only
to a small extend the simulation of a special era of Formula 1 racing. More
important than that is that it does what every other racing game has failed
until now. GPL is demanding enough to form a own kind of Sport, a racing
environment existing independently from the 1967 F1 season it simulates.
Jack saw that and also the poorly developed multiplayer aspect of the sim
and the tremendous possibilities that this form of virtual racing holds. I
think Jack was simply ahead of his time. At the current stage GPL is
technically not advanced enough to provide more than (really good) fun and a
playfield for enthusiasts who are willing to sacrifice their free time
without material gain. In a few years, when internet access has become more
popular (it's still incredibly
expensive here in Europe, so I have already paid more than a "nominal fee"
just for internet access, btw I really would've prefered Jack to receive
that
money instead of my greedy phone-company ), Jack's vision will ultimately
prove to
be a profitable business. To do it all by oneself and with a sim that is
still flawed by
lousy Internet connections and loads of little bugs to work out was as it,
sadly, seems,
doomed to fail. I could't believe the amount of work and enthusiasm this guy
showed for the cause of taking online-racing an important step forward, it
completely got me and i haven't missed a race of the newly formed NTT world
championship, even started developing a website to boost NTT popularity in
Germany.
Finally, I want to really thank you Jack for all the good racing that was
going on on your server, and hope you can prove your wife one day
that you got a brilliant idea too early. (maybe with GPL 2, when
it arrives ;-)). Perhaps we can one day hail Jack Rambo as the guy who
pioneered it all....
Hope to see you on the track again real soon...
Alex
p.s: The upside of things is : I will have more free time next week than
originally planned, could use that opportunity to reintroduce myself to my
Girlfriend :-)
I disagree, GPL is IMHO in theory THE right sim to do it with because it
requires a certain level of skill and commitment from the driver. GPL was
the first racing game I have been playing since GP2. What makes GPL so
special is only
to a small extend the simulation of a special era of Formula 1 racing. More
important than that is that it does what every other racing game has failed
until now. GPL is demanding enough to form a own kind of Sport, a racing
environment existing independently from the 1967 F1 season it simulates.
Jack saw that and also the poorly developed multiplayer aspect of the sim
and the tremendous possibilities that this form of virtual racing holds. I
think Jack was simply ahead of his time. At the current stage GPL is
technically not advanced enough to provide more than (really good) fun and a
playfield for enthusiasts who are willing to sacrifice their free time
without material gain. In a few years, when internet access has become more
popular (it's still incredibly
expensive here in Europe, so I have already paid more than a "nominal fee"
just for internet access, btw I really would've prefered Jack to receive
that
money instead of my greedy phone-company ), Jack's vision will ultimately
prove to
be a profitable business. To do it all by oneself and with a sim that is
still flawed by
lousy Internet connections and loads of little bugs to work out was as it,
sadly, seems,
doomed to fail. I could't believe the amount of work and enthusiasm this guy
showed for the cause of taking online-racing an important step forward, it
completely got me and i haven't missed a race of the newly formed NTT world
championship, even started developing a website to boost NTT popularity in
Germany.
Finally, I want to really thank you Jack for all the good racing that was
going on on your server, and hope you can prove your wife one day
that you got a brilliant idea too early. (maybe with GPL 2, when
it arrives ;-)). Perhaps we can one day hail Jack Rambo as the guy who
pioneered it all....
Hope to see you on the track again real soon...
Alex
p.s: The upside of things is : I will have more free time next week than
originally planned, could use that opportunity to reintroduce myself to my
Girlfriend :-)
All the best
--
Ian Parker
ICQ 21772592
--Dave
> Jack,
> Thanks for the fun races I had with NTT. Although I didn't join
> lately, I HATE Monaco, I'll mis those races.
> Remco
Remco
> We at SCORL offered several prizes to winner of individual races as well as the
> division champion.
> In the G.T.S. Division of SCORL... there was sponsors for 3 of the 14 races.
> It is just remarkeably hard to get sponsors to donate prizes =(
> The development of the "centralized" online racing community is just not
> materializing.
I'm beginning to think the only way sim-racing is
ever going to be big is through live events.
--
Pat Dotson
IMPACT Motorsports
http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html
Id like to see some kind of organization for "sim racers". Not NASCAR sim racers.
Not GPL Sim Racers. Not Burn Out Sim Racers. Not SportsCar GT sim racers. ALL sim
racers. No matter what type of racing you prefer... heck, maybe you like ALL of
them. We are all sim racers.
However, the organization wont mean squat if you cant get software companies,
hardware manufacturers, etc to recognize it and you have to be able to involve sim
racers from around the world, not just the US.
Its tough. I spoke to a friends who is an attorney and there are alot of issues that
would have to be worked out to be able to charge any kind of admission fee, etc that
would generate enough funds to just operate the organization to do any good. Thats
if the founding fathers were just volunteers! Forget about getting paid <G>
Scott
PA-Scott
G.T.S. Racing - http://home.earthlink.net/~sbhusted/GTS/gts.html
> > We at SCORL offered several prizes to winner of individual races as well as the
> > division champion.
> > In the G.T.S. Division of SCORL... there was sponsors for 3 of the 14 races.
> > It is just remarkeably hard to get sponsors to donate prizes =(
> > The development of the "centralized" online racing community is just not
> > materializing.
> HGNS was giving away a TSW - examples are few
> and far between. Why couldn't OSCAR, with over
> 1000 participants, have given awards in the top
> divisions? I think it just comes down to having
> good promoters. I'm probably the worst promoter
> ever, but I've seen companies throw products
> around pretty freely.
> I'm beginning to think the only way sim-racing is
> ever going to be big is through live events.
> --
> Pat Dotson
> IMPACT Motorsports
> http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html
<snipped>
series. >
Sorry to hear this Jack, but I would like to say thanks for the wonderfull
well structured league and races while it lasted.
Hope to race with you online soon.
Take care
--
George Sandman
Sponsored by PDPI L4 Digital Gamecard http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Stealth Racing #1 http://***sys.com/stealthracing.html
Three cheers for Jack!
Regards and appreciation,
Ian Robertson.
> Id like to see some kind of organization for "sim racers". Not NASCAR sim racers.
> Not GPL Sim Racers. Not Burn Out Sim Racers. Not SportsCar GT sim racers. ALL sim
> racers. No matter what type of racing you prefer... heck, maybe you like ALL of
> them. We are all sim racers.
> However, the organization wont mean squat if you cant get software companies,
> hardware manufacturers, etc to recognize it and you have to be able to involve sim
> racers from around the world, not just the US.
> Its tough. I spoke to a friends who is an attorney and there are alot of issues that
> would have to be worked out to be able to charge any kind of admission fee, etc that
> would generate enough funds to just operate the organization to do any good. Thats
> if the founding fathers were just volunteers! Forget about getting paid <G>
> Scott
> PA-Scott
> G.T.S. Racing - http://home.earthlink.net/~sbhusted/GTS/gts.html
> > > We at SCORL offered several prizes to winner of individual races as well as the
> > > division champion.
> > > In the G.T.S. Division of SCORL... there was sponsors for 3 of the 14 races.
> > > It is just remarkeably hard to get sponsors to donate prizes =(
> > > The development of the "centralized" online racing community is just not
> > > materializing.
> > HGNS was giving away a TSW - examples are few
> > and far between. Why couldn't OSCAR, with over
> > 1000 participants, have given awards in the top
> > divisions? I think it just comes down to having
> > good promoters. I'm probably the worst promoter
> > ever, but I've seen companies throw products
> > around pretty freely.
> > I'm beginning to think the only way sim-racing is
> > ever going to be big is through live events.
> > --
> > Pat Dotson
> > IMPACT Motorsports
> > http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html
> --
> Scott B. Husted
> PA-Scott on TEN
> http://home.earthlink.net/~sbhusted
> ICQ# 4395450
> I will advise, when the problem is resolved and our regular schedule of
> qualifying races can be resumed.
> Jack Rambo
ICQ 3002944
The HotSeat
http://www.racesimcentral.net/~sf5j-rdyn/
But private racing series in real life have plenty of sponsors, and still
they don't reach any watching public. They are in the same place as us, but
I know that the NROS has some plans for sponsorship, especially with the
"real" first season starting soon.
There was over a hundred people watching the NROS finals at Daytona, so yes
there is a market for public. I know the NROS has plans in the future (that
doesn't mean they will be developed) for real-time or at least post-race
replays.
But I do think there is a market for sponsors. Maybe not large
corporations, but companies that focus on simracers. PC software and
hardware companies. ISP and Internet related companies, etc..
--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard/Nas-Frank>
-- NROS Nascar sanctioned Guide http://www.nros.com/
-- SimRacing Online http://www.simracing.com/
-- Official mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
-- May the Downforce be with you...
"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."