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by **Stuart Becktel** » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 01:36:01

Well I just ran today after having a few hours to think about my time and
was able to run a 37.9...I know I can get better though, I'm not really
pushing the car through a couple of turns to the limit.

> Thanks for the info. Found out that I'm turning in too early, and that
> you're killing me through turn 5. Was able to get my best time down to a
> 39.6, but I know that I could have at least taken that down by a second,
but
> in the last turn I lost the rear of the car :( BTW, I've using high
traction
> control and stablitiy control at low...and that's been worth at least 2
> seconds a lap.

> > You've got mail!

> > > So I'm going to ask the stupid question now...could you send me your
> > replay
> > > file? replace spam.com with rochester.rr.com

by **Eldre** » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 03:29:41

>What system do you have? It seems like you're a much better sim racer then
>the game is allowing you to be. Honestly, the way I've always found when I'm
>going really fast in an F1 game if when I'm braking, I hit the gas right
>when I stop braking. It sounds like you're coasting through the turn. This
>is slow for two reasons. One you're simply not accelearting, but the other
>is because you're losing a lot of weight on the front wheels, so the car
>tends to understeer. And not to brag, but for the left hand hairpin I
>usually brake about half a second after I pass the 50 marker. I miss the
>"correct" apex, but I'm faster.

>Really sounds like you should get a new system soonish, just a motherboard
>and chip would probably cost less then 300 bucks, but still help you out a
>ton the speed department.

Yeah, it probably would. 40 fps on an empty track may be screwing me up. Two
problems, though. One, finances are an issue. Two, new motherboards don't
have ISA slots for my gamecard. My TSW2 doesn't have a USB connection. So I'd
also have to either get a new wheel, or a USB/game converter that people don't
seem to like...

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by **Eldre** » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 14:30:01

>Yeah, it probably would. 40 fps on an empty track may be screwing me up.
>Two
>problems, though. One, finances are an issue. Two, new motherboards don't
>have ISA slots for my gamecard. My TSW2 doesn't have a USB connection. So
>I'd
>also have to either get a new wheel, or a USB/game converter that people
>don't
>seem to like...

Sorry - I never said what system I had...
Athlon 1200, 384MB ram, GFti4600, Win98se

This weekend I just tried something someone suggested before, a new windows
install. No difference in framerate, as I suspected would be the case. It's
not something else running in/on my system, it's the system itself.

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by **Stuart Becktel** » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:09:53

If you know what motherboard you have, I might be able to find out if you
could just get a a new processor for it. The RAM seems a bit low, but that
shouldn't be causing much problems, the video is fine. You can also get a
PCI sound card that has a gameport already on it so you can contuine to run
the wheel.

> >Yeah, it probably would. 40 fps on an empty track may be screwing me up.
> >Two
> >problems, though. One, finances are an issue. Two, new motherboards
don't
> >have ISA slots for my gamecard. My TSW2 doesn't have a USB connection.
So
> >I'd
> >also have to either get a new wheel, or a USB/game converter that people
> >don't
> >seem to like...

> Sorry - I never said what system I had...
> Athlon 1200, 384MB ram, GFti4600, Win98se

> This weekend I just tried something someone suggested before, a new
windows
> install. No difference in framerate, as I suspected would be the case.
It's
> not something else running in/on my system, it's the system itself.

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by **Uwe Sch??rkam** » Tue, 16 Mar 2004 22:27:43

I have my TSW connected to the SBLive!'s gameport. Are you using
onboard sound, Eldred? Does your mobo provide a gameport you could
use?

cheers,

uwe

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by **Eldre** » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 02:54:25

I thought the problem was that the gameports on soundcards *sucked*? That's
why people started getting gamecards like the PDPI...
Of course that was when the SB16 was top of the line, so maybe I'm just behind
the times.

Gigabyte GA-72X. I just got a BIOS update for it a month or so ago, and that
gave me about 3-4 fps.

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by **Eldre** » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 03:10:30

See my reply to Stuart. I thought the game ports on sound cards were a bad
idea, so it never entered my mind. I suppose it's an option - I have a SBLive.

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by **David G Fishe** » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 05:43:40

Ian, can I try your setup too? I seem to have hit a wall with mine.

David G Fisher

> > Can you e-mail me your setup (change spam.com to rochester.rr.com)? I
> > tried the 2002 Ferrari and was able to get down to a 1:41.5...but
> > yea, that's a lot slower then you. It seemed a lot faster then the
> > williams I tested, but I didn't have much stability under braking.

> > Is there any difference between the 2002 and 2003 ferrari either btw?
> > -Stuart Becktell

> You have mail.

> I think the 02 and 03 cars are the same.

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by **Uwe Sch??rkam** » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 05:25:19

Then by all means to limit yourself to a mobo that provides ISA when
you think about an upgrade ;-) The gameport on the SBLive! is fine,
but you should be aware of problems regarding VIA-chipset based mobos
and the sblive sound card (at least there were some a couple of years
go).

For what it's worth, I am running off an ECS K7S5A mobo with an
XP2400+, and you'll probably be able to get this mainboard for a song
on ebay. It runs the SBLive ok with 98SE.

Cheers,

uwe

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by **Ian** » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 06:22:29

> Ian, can I try your setup too? I seem to have hit a wall with mine.

> David G Fisher

I've uploaded a replay and the setup I used to
http://www.iparker.plus.com/f1c/malaysia/ for anyone who wants to try it.

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by **David G Fishe** » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 06:58:58

Thanks.

David G Fisher

> > Ian, can I try your setup too? I seem to have hit a wall with mine.

> > David G Fisher

> I've uploaded a replay and the setup I used to
> http://www.iparker.plus.com/f1c/malaysia/ for anyone who wants to try it.

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by **Ped Xin** » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 08:26:24

Wow, I guess it's time for me to get sad and frustrated like Eldred.
1:34? I haven't been able to get under a 1:37 and change. :-(

A bummer for me is that I can go a little quicker by driving the Ferrari,
but we can't have a grid full of Ferraris. That would be dull.

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by **Stuart Becktel** » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 13:46:13

That was the problem earlier. I know that I haven't had a problem in a while
on games.

http://tw.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Support/CPUSupportList/CPUSupport...

That is a link to the website with CPU support info, it sounds like you need
to have the newest revision to support many high end processors, and even
then its only a 2100+...so not that quick. If you think you could spend
under 200 bucks, I could look online for a mobo and chip package that would
help everything out.

by **Uwe Sch??rkam** » Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:42:45

> I've uploaded a replay and the setup I used to
> http://www.iparker.plus.com/f1c/malaysia/ for anyone who wants to try it.

thanks Ian, I'll give it a try tonight. Will the setup also work with
a McLaren?

uwe

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by **Larry Lindstro** » Thu, 18 Mar 2004 01:20:49

>>Ian, can I try your setup too? I seem to have hit a wall with mine.

>>David G Fisher

> I've uploaded a replay and the setup I used to
> http://www.iparker.plus.com/f1c/malaysia/ for anyone who wants to try it.

Thanks Ian:

You make it look so easy. It's inspiring, but it's a little
discouraging too. My car is bouncing through turn 4, your's
looks like it's driving on a pool table. Is 1:34 your best?
What times can you consistently lap at?

My best is 10 seconds slower. 1:44.

I'm studying this track more systematically than any I've
tried before. A printout of the map, with the target speeds
for each section, is at my side as I practice. I've memorized
those speeds up to turn 9, but I fall way off through 7 and 8,
the two rights joined by the short straight.

I can hit, or come very close to, those target speeds on
the part of the track I've learned. For example turns 5 and 6
have target speeds of 143 and 132 MPH. If I'm monitoring my
speed I do OK. But if I'm watching the road instead, when I
glance at my speed I find I'm going 15 or 20 MPH slower.

I'm driving with half the compute horsepower Eldred has.
I've also cranked down the graphics. Alone on the track, I'm
getting 20FPS, with occasional spikes up to 28FPS. Perhaps
better graphics would provide necessary visual clues that would
help me judge my speed.

Eldred, what's your best so far?

A friend of mine, who I'd like to join us on Sunday mornings,
is driving a Williams. If any Williams driver could send setups,
and an inspiring hot lap video, I'll pass it on.

I know this is kind of personal, but telemetry of the hot
laps would also help a lot.

I appreciate all the advice you fast drivers are sharing.

Thanks
Larry

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