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Actlabs steering wheel

Wosc

Actlabs steering wheel

by Wosc » Thu, 25 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Hey everyone,
I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look pretty
horizontal.  I was wondering how they were.  I prefer vertical pedals
(realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh pedals
rather than pushing on them.  I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and they
just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the vert
pedals.  So how are the pedals for the act labs?

Jesse

hime

Actlabs steering wheel

by hime » Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:00:00

The ACT pedals are very horizontal.  You're basically pushing straight down on
them.  Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that reason, you're
ankles don't get tired.  They also have a much shorter range of travel than the
T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used to it.
They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they don't
slide.  At all.  I find them quite comfy during long races.  But the wheel is
the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot.

            Zog


> Hey everyone,
> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look pretty
> horizontal.  I was wondering how they were.  I prefer vertical pedals
> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh pedals
> rather than pushing on them.  I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and they
> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the vert
> pedals.  So how are the pedals for the act labs?

> Jesse

--
Don't let the bastards grind you down.
Doug Schneider
Bedford, Nova Scotia
Canada
Greg Cisk

Actlabs steering wheel

by Greg Cisk » Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

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cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com


>The ACT pedals are very horizontal.  You're basically pushing straight down
on
>them.  Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that reason,
you're
>ankles don't get tired.  They also have a much shorter range of travel than
the
>T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used to
it.
>They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they don't
>slide.  At all.  I find them quite comfy during long races.  But the wheel
is
>the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot.

>            Zog


>> Hey everyone,
>> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look
pretty
>> horizontal.  I was wondering how they were.  I prefer vertical pedals
>> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh pedals
>> rather than pushing on them.  I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and
they
>> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the
vert
>> pedals.  So how are the pedals for the act labs?

>> Jesse

>--
>Don't let the bastards grind you down.
>Doug Schneider
>Bedford, Nova Scotia
>Canada

Pat Dotso

Actlabs steering wheel

by Pat Dotso » Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:00:00

The original poster only said RS (which is non-FF).  The
force RS does auto-center in non-FF games (but not in
GPL :( ).

The pedals do move downward instead of forward.  I find
that a lot more comfortable, and it reduces the slippage
of the pedals.  You can probably get used to using
either type of pedals, though, and both would be
comfortable.

--
Pat Dotson
IMPACT Motorsports
http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html


> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

hime

Actlabs steering wheel

by hime » Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Yeah, mine does, but I've heard of some people having problems with it.  There's
a slider to set the intensity of the "spring" effect, which simulates the
centering provided by a bungee cord in non-FF wheels.  I set that to about 25%
and it feels pretty normal.  One thing you've gotta take into consideration is
that since it connects via the com port, it won't work with some games,
including, unfortunately, Nascar 2.

            Zog


> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

> --

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> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal.  You're basically pushing straight down
> on
> >them.  Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that reason,
> you're
> >ankles don't get tired.  They also have a much shorter range of travel than
> the
> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used to
> it.
> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they don't
> >slide.  At all.  I find them quite comfy during long races.  But the wheel
> is
> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot.

> >            Zog


> >> Hey everyone,
> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look
> pretty
> >> horizontal.  I was wondering how they were.  I prefer vertical pedals
> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh pedals
> >> rather than pushing on them.  I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and
> they
> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the
> vert
> >> pedals.  So how are the pedals for the act labs?

> >> Jesse

> >--
> >Don't let the bastards grind you down.
> >Doug Schneider
> >Bedford, Nova Scotia
> >Canada

--
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Doug Schneider
Bedford, Nova Scotia
Canada
Wosc

Actlabs steering wheel

by Wosc » Fri, 26 Feb 1999 04:00:00

Well force and non force is what im looking at, most likely force if i go
for it.

>The original poster only said RS (which is non-FF).  The
>force RS does auto-center in non-FF games (but not in
>GPL :( ).

>The pedals do move downward instead of forward.  I find
>that a lot more comfortable, and it reduces the slippage
>of the pedals.  You can probably get used to using
>either type of pedals, though, and both would be
>comfortable.

>--
>Pat Dotson
>IMPACT Motorsports
>http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html


>> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

Ronald Stoe

Actlabs steering wheel

by Ronald Stoe » Sun, 28 Feb 1999 04:00:00


> The original poster only said RS (which is non-FF).  The
> force RS does auto-center in non-FF games (but not in
> GPL :( ).

That seems technically impossible, as the game, eeh, sim
is not involved in the auto-centering. So, if it doesn't
auto-center in GPL, how would it happen in any other game?

l8er
ronny

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Pat Dotso

Actlabs steering wheel

by Pat Dotso » Sun, 28 Feb 1999 04:00:00



> > The original poster only said RS (which is non-FF).  The
> > force RS does auto-center in non-FF games (but not in
> > GPL :( ).

> That seems technically impossible, as the game, eeh, sim
> is not involved in the auto-centering. So, if it doesn't
> auto-center in GPL, how would it happen in any other game?

The on-board force effect processor is supposed
to revert to auto-centering if no software FF
support is present.  The wheel will auto-center
while you are looking at the Win95 desktop, and
also if you reboot to DOS.

Something about GPL disables this function!  I
can't imagine why it would be difficult to fix :(

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Yippee3

Actlabs steering wheel

by Yippee3 » Wed, 05 May 1999 04:00:00

The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL.  Adjustable
level of centering.  It works well.  The new patch also enables separate axis
for brake and accel.

BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board.  ACT Labs
guys read it regularly.

Yippee38


> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

> --

> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com


> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal.  You're basically pushing straight down
> on
> >them.  Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that reason,
> you're
> >ankles don't get tired.  They also have a much shorter range of travel than
> the
> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used to
> it.
> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they don't
> >slide.  At all.  I find them quite comfy during long races.  But the wheel
> is
> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot.

> >            Zog


> >> Hey everyone,
> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look
> pretty
> >> horizontal.  I was wondering how they were.  I prefer vertical pedals
> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh pedals
> >> rather than pushing on them.  I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and
> they
> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of the
> vert
> >> pedals.  So how are the pedals for the act labs?

> >> Jesse

> >--
> >Don't let the bastards grind you down.
> >Doug Schneider
> >Bedford, Nova Scotia
> >Canada

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Kai Fulle

Actlabs steering wheel

by Kai Fulle » Wed, 05 May 1999 04:00:00

I've heard that this patch does not add dual axis, I'm having a hard time
getting one answer on this...

can I go read it somewhere concretely?


>The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL.
Adjustable
>level of centering.  It works well.  The new patch also enables separate
axis
>for brake and accel.

>BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board.  ACT
Labs
>guys read it regularly.

>Yippee38


>> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

>> --

>> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

>> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com


>> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal.  You're basically pushing straight
down
>> on
>> >them.  Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that
reason,
>> you're
>> >ankles don't get tired.  They also have a much shorter range of travel
than
>> the
>> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used to
>> it.
>> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they
don't
>> >slide.  At all.  I find them quite comfy during long races.  But the
wheel
>> is
>> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot.

>> >            Zog


>> >> Hey everyone,
>> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look
>> pretty
>> >> horizontal.  I was wondering how they were.  I prefer vertical pedals
>> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh
pedals
>> >> rather than pushing on them.  I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and
>> they
>> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of
the
>> vert
>> >> pedals.  So how are the pedals for the act labs?

>> >> Jesse

>> >--
>> >Don't let the bastards grind you down.
>> >Doug Schneider
>> >Bedford, Nova Scotia
>> >Canada

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Kai Fulle

Actlabs steering wheel

by Kai Fulle » Wed, 05 May 1999 04:00:00

ok, to answer my own question, off of the act labs site:
"NEW!!!! - We recommend everyone download this new driver. Independent Pedal
Axis support! "

also in respoinse to Johm Bodin's earlier p[ost in another thread...

"If you go with the full ACT
Labs PDPI/RS combo, you also get split-axis support"

this dosn't seem to be the case anymore for the force feedback version, but
it has yet to ber implimented in the non force it seeems...


>I've heard that this patch does not add dual axis, I'm having a hard time
>getting one answer on this...

>can I go read it somewhere concretely?


>>The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL.
>Adjustable
>>level of centering.  It works well.  The new patch also enables separate
>axis
>>for brake and accel.

>>BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board.  ACT
>Labs
>>guys read it regularly.

>>Yippee38


>>> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

>>> --

>>> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

>>> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com


>>> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal.  You're basically pushing straight
>down
>>> on
>>> >them.  Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that
>reason,
>>> you're
>>> >ankles don't get tired.  They also have a much shorter range of travel
>than
>>> the
>>> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used
to
>>> it.
>>> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they
>don't
>>> >slide.  At all.  I find them quite comfy during long races.  But the
>wheel
>>> is
>>> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot.

>>> >            Zog


>>> >> Hey everyone,
>>> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look
>>> pretty
>>> >> horizontal.  I was wondering how they were.  I prefer vertical pedals
>>> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh
>pedals
>>> >> rather than pushing on them.  I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and
>>> they
>>> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of
>the
>>> vert
>>> >> pedals.  So how are the pedals for the act labs?

>>> >> Jesse

>>> >--
>>> >Don't let the bastards grind you down.
>>> >Doug Schneider
>>> >Bedford, Nova Scotia
>>> >Canada

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John Bod

Actlabs steering wheel

by John Bod » Thu, 06 May 1999 04:00:00

I haven't verified whether the patch provides for single-axis support
for the basic ACT Labs RS wheel -- I haven't tried it out myself with
the basic PC cartridge, so I don't want to mislead anybody.  This
feature *may* exist, but I can't confirm it.

I'll check with ACT Labs and try to post the response here.

-- JB



>ok, to answer my own question, off of the act labs site:
>"NEW!!!! - We recommend everyone download this new driver. Independent Pedal
>Axis support! "

>also in respoinse to Johm Bodin's earlier p[ost in another thread...

>"If you go with the full ACT
>Labs PDPI/RS combo, you also get split-axis support"

>this dosn't seem to be the case anymore for the force feedback version, but
>it has yet to ber implimented in the non force it seeems...


>>I've heard that this patch does not add dual axis, I'm having a hard time
>>getting one answer on this...

>>can I go read it somewhere concretely?


>>>The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL.
>>Adjustable
>>>level of centering.  It works well.  The new patch also enables separate
>>axis
>>>for brake and accel.

>>>BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board.  ACT
>>Labs
>>>guys read it regularly.

>>>Yippee38


>>>> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

>>>> --

>>>> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

>>>> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com


>>>> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal.  You're basically pushing straight
>>down
>>>> on
>>>> >them.  Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that
>>reason,
>>>> you're
>>>> >ankles don't get tired.  They also have a much shorter range of travel
>>than
>>>> the
>>>> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used
>to
>>>> it.
>>>> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they
>>don't
>>>> >slide.  At all.  I find them quite comfy during long races.  But the
>>wheel
>>>> is
>>>> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot.

>>>> >            Zog


>>>> >> Hey everyone,
>>>> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look
>>>> pretty
>>>> >> horizontal.  I was wondering how they were.  I prefer vertical pedals
>>>> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh
>>pedals
>>>> >> rather than pushing on them.  I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and
>>>> they
>>>> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of
>>the
>>>> vert
>>>> >> pedals.  So how are the pedals for the act labs?

>>>> >> Jesse

>>>> >--
>>>> >Don't let the bastards grind you down.
>>>> >Doug Schneider
>>>> >Bedford, Nova Scotia
>>>> >Canada

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John Bod

Actlabs steering wheel

by John Bod » Thu, 06 May 1999 04:00:00

Oops -- I mis-read your post.  I know that split-axis support is
provided on the PDPI/RS combo, but I don't know about the basic RS
wheel itself.  I also can't confirm whether or not it's supported on
the Force RS wheel.  

Sorry for the lack of info on this . . .

-- JB



>ok, to answer my own question, off of the act labs site:
>"NEW!!!! - We recommend everyone download this new driver. Independent Pedal
>Axis support! "

>also in respoinse to Johm Bodin's earlier p[ost in another thread...

>"If you go with the full ACT
>Labs PDPI/RS combo, you also get split-axis support"

>this dosn't seem to be the case anymore for the force feedback version, but
>it has yet to ber implimented in the non force it seeems...


>>I've heard that this patch does not add dual axis, I'm having a hard time
>>getting one answer on this...

>>can I go read it somewhere concretely?


>>>The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL.
>>Adjustable
>>>level of centering.  It works well.  The new patch also enables separate
>>axis
>>>for brake and accel.

>>>BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board.  ACT
>>Labs
>>>guys read it regularly.

>>>Yippee38


>>>> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

>>>> --

>>>> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

>>>> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com


>>>> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal.  You're basically pushing straight
>>down
>>>> on
>>>> >them.  Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that
>>reason,
>>>> you're
>>>> >ankles don't get tired.  They also have a much shorter range of travel
>>than
>>>> the
>>>> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used
>to
>>>> it.
>>>> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they
>>don't
>>>> >slide.  At all.  I find them quite comfy during long races.  But the
>>wheel
>>>> is
>>>> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot.

>>>> >            Zog


>>>> >> Hey everyone,
>>>> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look
>>>> pretty
>>>> >> horizontal.  I was wondering how they were.  I prefer vertical pedals
>>>> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh
>>pedals
>>>> >> rather than pushing on them.  I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and
>>>> they
>>>> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of
>>the
>>>> vert
>>>> >> pedals.  So how are the pedals for the act labs?

>>>> >> Jesse

>>>> >--
>>>> >Don't let the bastards grind you down.
>>>> >Doug Schneider
>>>> >Bedford, Nova Scotia
>>>> >Canada

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John Bod

Actlabs steering wheel

by John Bod » Fri, 07 May 1999 04:00:00

I received the following information from ACT Labs regarding split
axis support for the basic ACT Labs RS wheel.  It seems that the new
drivers will NOT provide split axis support for the RS wheel,
unfortunately:

<FROM ACT LABS>

The regular RS PC cartridge does not support split-axis. It is the
hardware, not the driver that determines this in this case. I think
the confusion comes because the latest driver revision for the Force
RS included split axis support. In that case, the hardware can support
3 analog axis. The RS PC cartridge supports only 2.

Future versions of the PC cartridge will likely include split-axis
support, though this will not be available anytime soon. Existing RS
owners will of course be able to purchase the revised engine for use
with their present wheel, when it becomes available.



>ok, to answer my own question, off of the act labs site:
>"NEW!!!! - We recommend everyone download this new driver. Independent Pedal
>Axis support! "

>also in respoinse to Johm Bodin's earlier p[ost in another thread...

>"If you go with the full ACT
>Labs PDPI/RS combo, you also get split-axis support"

>this dosn't seem to be the case anymore for the force feedback version, but
>it has yet to ber implimented in the non force it seeems...


>>I've heard that this patch does not add dual axis, I'm having a hard time
>>getting one answer on this...

>>can I go read it somewhere concretely?


>>>The new patch has enabled auto-center for non-FF games like GPL.
>>Adjustable
>>>level of centering.  It works well.  The new patch also enables separate
>>axis
>>>for brake and accel.

>>>BTW, you should hang out over at www.force-1.com's discussion board.  ACT
>>Labs
>>>guys read it regularly.

>>>Yippee38


>>>> Will it autocenter (like the MS wheel) for not FF games?

>>>> --

>>>> Header address intentionally scrambled to ward off the spamming hordes.

>>>> cisko [AT] ix [DOT] netcom [DOT] com


>>>> >The ACT pedals are very horizontal.  You're basically pushing straight
>>down
>>>> on
>>>> >them.  Personally, I prefer them to my T2 pedals for exactly that
>>reason,
>>>> you're
>>>> >ankles don't get tired.  They also have a much shorter range of travel
>>than
>>>> the
>>>> >T2 pedals, but it isn't a problem (for me, anyways) once you get used
>to
>>>> it.
>>>> >They're big and heavy, and if you use them on a carpeted floor they
>>don't
>>>> >slide.  At all.  I find them quite comfy during long races.  But the
>>wheel
>>>> is
>>>> >the high point, feels great and ZERO dead spot.

>>>> >            Zog


>>>> >> Hey everyone,
>>>> >> I just looked at the act labs RS steering wheel and the pedals look
>>>> pretty
>>>> >> horizontal.  I was wondering how they were.  I prefer vertical pedals
>>>> >> (realistic) and I was wondering if it was more like steping on teh
>>pedals
>>>> >> rather than pushing on them.  I have tryed semi horizontal pedals and
>>>> they
>>>> >> just dont give you any feel of a car, i like my nascar pro cause of
>>the
>>>> vert
>>>> >> pedals.  So how are the pedals for the act labs?

>>>> >> Jesse

>>>> >--
>>>> >Don't let the bastards grind you down.
>>>> >Doug Schneider
>>>> >Bedford, Nova Scotia
>>>> >Canada

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sharad..

Actlabs steering wheel

by sharad.. » Fri, 28 May 1999 04:00:00

Hi folks!

Ok dumb question......

On my PC I have an internal modem and a serial mouse connected to both
COM ports. Is there any way I can connect the Force RS to my PC since
it doesn't support USB (right now)???

Thanks
Sharad

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