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by **Verne** » Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:02:04

Okay.............my brother in law's employer was giving away old 4.3g HDs
because they upgraded theirs. He grabbed me 2. I figured I'd done it before,
I'd do it again, installing a 2nd HD. First attempt at a 3rd HD.
Well..............no go. I tried what I think is everything and they just do
NOT show up in my windows explorer. I can get the CMOS to recognize them
under auto detect........it also recognizes them if I manually do it. Upon
boot up it shows my master HD, then it shows the new HDs as both 2nd master
and primary slave........then my CDrom as 2nd slave. My primary HD runs off
the board as does my CDrom......it was set up this way for me.....it just
seems that playing with the jumpers yeilded no drives appearing in windows.
I am running Win98 and have 2 extra power points and IDE
connections.......so I am assuming that I can run 3 HDs and one CDrom. If
there may be something I am doing wrong.....could someone go over what I am
supposed to do......or what I may have not done?!?! Thanks guys. Oh yeah,
I posted this here, cuz I am only on a couple NGs and most here seem very
voiced in PC......that and not knowing what other NG to look for to ask
advice.

TIA Verne

by **Steve Whitt** » Fri, 05 Sep 2003 15:35:55

I don't have any experience with 3 hds. But what format are the drives in.
ntfs? if so, win98 won't read them. try formatting them.

Steve

by **Ed Solhei** » Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:44:40

Be sure you've set the jumper-pins *on* the HDD correctly.

- Your *primary* harddisk should be set as MASTER (Do *not* use cable
select) and it should be connected to the IDE-0 "channel"
- your "D-drive" (i.e secondary HD) should be set as SLAVE and connected to
the same cable as your primary disk (i.e IDE-0)

- Your third harddisk should be set as MASTER and connected to *IDE-1*
- Your CD-rom should be set as SLAVE and be connected to *IDE-1* thru the
same cable as your third disk.

Once all that is done... hit 'DEL' upon power-up / first-boot and go into
the Bios. Find the "drive-set-up screen" and make sure every channel is set
to auto-detect the drive type.

Save - reboot - enjoy!

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by **Alni** » Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:32:47

Bonjour,

And make sure that the *two* controlers are enabled, if there was no drive
or CDrom on the second one.

by **John Wallac** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 01:03:57

This is what I used to run. I think everything appropriate has been
suggested, namely ;

1) Check the jumpers. Since the BIOS is correctly detecting I would assume
that to be correct, but better to double check.

2) Check the secondary IDE channel is enabled.

3) Check the drives don't need "FDISK"ed away from NTFS. Again I think that
even an NTFS drive would still show up in Win 98, but be unreadable.

4) Try a search on the 'net for the drive's model number, to see if anything
needs to be set in Windows as regards a special driver, DMA/PIO settings or
whatever.

John

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by **Verne** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 04:18:48

Okay......I tried setting them up as suggested.a dn one it seems may be
FUBAR........but the other just doesn NOT want to be rad. I threw my old
1.8g in that was being removed in favour of these 2....it gets read just
fine shows in windows. Both contrtollers are showing enabled and working
fine, but the HD does not show up in my explorer....the CRrom does still. I
can feel the drive spinning.....so it is working at least. I can't fdisk it
as I have no drive letter to use........DAMN !!! Maybe free stuff costs
more than money, aggravation and TIME, the ultimate price !!!! Ah
well....I'll keep plugging with the ideas.....thanks guys.

Verne

by **spamtra** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 01:47:42

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 12:18:48 -0700, "Verne \"fnugen\" Harris"

>Okay......I tried setting them up as suggested.a dn one it seems may be
>FUBAR........but the other just doesn NOT want to be rad. I threw my old
>1.8g in that was being removed in favour of these 2....it gets read just
>fine shows in windows. Both contrtollers are showing enabled and working
>fine, but the HD does not show up in my explorer....the CRrom does still. I
>can feel the drive spinning.....so it is working at least. I can't fdisk it
>as I have no drive letter to use........DAMN !!! Maybe free stuff costs
>more than money, aggravation and TIME, the ultimate price !!!! Ah
>well....I'll keep plugging with the ideas.....thanks guys.

FDISK has nothing to do with drive letters.
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by **Alan Jone** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 02:20:53

This is very unlikely as the problem but using a program like TweakUI, make
sure the drive letter is check marked or enabled, not unchecked or disabled.
I would make sure all drive letters, A thru Z, are enabled/checked.

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 01:02:04 -0700, "Verne \"fnugen\" Harris"

>Okay.............my brother in law's employer was giving away old 4.3g HDs
>because they upgraded theirs. He grabbed me 2. I figured I'd done it before,
>I'd do it again, installing a 2nd HD. First attempt at a 3rd HD.
>Well..............no go. I tried what I think is everything and they just do
>NOT show up in my windows explorer. I can get the CMOS to recognize them
>under auto detect........it also recognizes them if I manually do it. Upon
>boot up it shows my master HD, then it shows the new HDs as both 2nd master
>and primary slave........then my CDrom as 2nd slave. My primary HD runs off
>the board as does my CDrom......it was set up this way for me.....it just
>seems that playing with the jumpers yeilded no drives appearing in windows.
>I am running Win98 and have 2 extra power points and IDE
>connections.......so I am assuming that I can run 3 HDs and one CDrom. If
>there may be something I am doing wrong.....could someone go over what I am
>supposed to do......or what I may have not done?!?! Thanks guys. Oh yeah,
>I posted this here, cuz I am only on a couple NGs and most here seem very
>voiced in PC......that and not knowing what other NG to look for to ask
>advice.

> TIA Verne

by **Newshoun** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 02:37:07

It certainly does if you use it to make multiple partitions.
1 Physical HD does not necessarily equal 1 partition!
So creating multiple partitions can create lots of drive letters.

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by **spamtra** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 02:40:57

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:37:07 -0300, "Newshound"

>It certainly does if you use it to make multiple partitions.
>1 Physical HD does not necessarily equal 1 partition!
>So creating multiple partitions can create lots of drive letters.

But FDISK does not control what drive letters those partitions will
equate to.
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by **Peter Ive** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 02:44:21

Why not use cable select? Is this to just be on the safe side? If not,
then I see no reason for it. I have 2 drives using cable select just
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by **Verne** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 05:42:44

I resorted to sending an email to Western Digital to ask their ideas. The
drives I am trying to use are WD Caviar 14300 (AKA AC14300) if that makes
any difference to anybody.......or anything. Awaiting their response now. I
do have a Seagate 1.8g HD that I can install with no problems whatsoever.
Odd to me that BOTH these drives would refuse to install properly. They both
spin and sound like they are operating normally , well, one kinda clunks a
little......I have tried everyione's ideas and none seem to work....DAMN !!!
ah well.......thanks to all who have tried to help.

Verne

by **Newshoun** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:28:09

True, but that's not what you said. You used the word "nothing", it does
have something to do with it.

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> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 14:37:07 -0300, "Newshound"

> >It certainly does if you use it to make multiple partitions.
> >1 Physical HD does not necessarily equal 1 partition!
> >So creating multiple partitions can create lots of drive letters.

> But FDISK does not control what drive letters those partitions will
> equate to.
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by **spamtra** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:35:42

On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 15:28:09 -0300, "Newshound"

>True, but that's not what you said. You used the word "nothing", it does
>have something to do with it.

It creates partitions, the mobo and OS control the drive letter.

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by **Newshoun** » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:55:21

Yes, but without a partition, they can't create the drive letter.
So it does have something to do with it right?

> On Thu, 4 Sep 2003 15:28:09 -0300, "Newshound"

> >True, but that's not what you said. You used the word "nothing", it does
> >have something to do with it.

> It creates partitions, the mobo and OS control the drive letter.

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