>Will the new patch fix the fast drivers so they will do a better job of not
>ramming me from behind at the end of those long fast straights?
>James
bob
>>The most annoying thing about GPL (which I love) is that I consistently get
>>rammed from behind by the really fast drivers when they are lapping me
>(even
>>though I feel I am trying hard to stay out of their way).
>>Will the new patch fix the fast drivers so they will do a better job of not
>>ramming me from behind at the end of those long fast straights?
>>James
> Not so. It's utterly absurd how the AI will just ram you from behind
> when you've maintained a straight line in the braking zone.
When following someone into a corner you should brake a little earlier
than normal, but if you back right off there's no way you'll ever
overtake him!
And no, I don't think brake lights would make any difference! ;-)
Unfortunatly this is too true. Once you can catch and stay with the AI
you'll be just as frustrated as they suddenly and for no apparent
reason slow down directly in front of you. Are they simulating
slipping clutches, missed gears, fuel starvation, who knows ?
This overslowing of AI seems to be a long term problem of Papy sims.
There must be a problem about it thats very hard to solve. Perhaps
GPaL will assist this with its AI modifiers.
My experience is that online gpl drivers are better to drive with than
the AI. This is saying something as the reverse has often been true in
the past. Perhaps more of the *** simers have developed online
smarts since online stuff became available.
I think, IMHO, that GP2 still has the best AI to drive against. Thats
just MHO and no doubt others will entirely disagree.
Regards
Phillip McNelley.
> >Not so. It's utterly absurd how the AI will just ram you from behind
> >when you've maintained a straight line in the braking zone.
> Good practice for VROC though ;-)
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> >Well, it happens with human drivers as well - the following driver has
> >to assume that the guy in front will brake at more or less the 'normal'
> >braking point, so if you brake much too early you will normally get
> >punted whether the guy behind is human or AI.
> If you're coming up on somebody though, obviously, you're faster than
> they are, so you should expect that they'll break sooner than you
> would.
> Some racers seem to just race as fast as they can, and when they're
> passing if they can't find a way around they just try to go over.
> It'd be nice if people could be a bit more patient and wait for a safe
> passing opportunity.
> I will pull over when I see the blue flags but otherwise, I'm racing.
However, I have had some accidents (both ways round) due to inexperience
- normally resulting in profuse apologies from the person at fault.
What I now try to do when following someone slower than me is not to
dive into the corner (unless they're way too slow), but to follow them
in at a bit of a distance and try to close on them so that I get a
faster exit from the corner - that way I can easily take them on the
following straight.
The time for trying to go inside someone is when you're faced with
someone pretty much as fast as you. If you find yourself closing on
them coming up to a corner with a long braking zone, pull out of the
slipstream and brake slightly earlier than the normal braking point (as
you're going faster than normal) so that you just get in front of them
by the time they want to turn in.
The most important thing is not to overshoot the corner - it's better to
let them go round you than to crash out (and both drivers need to be
very careful not to collide).
This kind of situation with equally-good drivers can be extremely
exciting for both, and you both lose out if you collide.
It may interest you (probably won't....but what the heck! You might learn a
bit of historical trivia) that the blue flag as used in the era represented
by GPL was advisory only, indicating that a driver was being closely
followed and that the following driver was most likely looking at getting
past.
It was *not* a signal to the driver that he/she must allow the following car
past.
> > >Well, it happens with human drivers as well - the following driver has
> > >to assume that the guy in front will brake at more or less the 'normal'
> > >braking point, so if you brake much too early you will normally get
> > >punted whether the guy behind is human or AI.
> > If you're coming up on somebody though, obviously, you're faster than
> > they are, so you should expect that they'll break sooner than you
> > would.
> > Some racers seem to just race as fast as they can, and when they're
> > passing if they can't find a way around they just try to go over.
> > It'd be nice if people could be a bit more patient and wait for a safe
> > passing opportunity.
> > I will pull over when I see the blue flags but otherwise, I'm racing.
> Sure - I absolutely hate punting people, and do everything I can to
> avoid it - in my experience pretty much everyone else on VROC does too.
> However, I have had some accidents (both ways round) due to inexperience
> - normally resulting in profuse apologies from the person at fault.
> What I now try to do when following someone slower than me is not to
> dive into the corner (unless they're way too slow), but to follow them
> in at a bit of a distance and try to close on them so that I get a
> faster exit from the corner - that way I can easily take them on the
> following straight.
> The time for trying to go inside someone is when you're faced with
> someone pretty much as fast as you. If you find yourself closing on
> them coming up to a corner with a long braking zone, pull out of the
> slipstream and brake slightly earlier than the normal braking point (as
> you're going faster than normal) so that you just get in front of them
> by the time they want to turn in.
> The most important thing is not to overshoot the corner - it's better to
> let them go round you than to crash out (and both drivers need to be
> very careful not to collide).
> This kind of situation with equally-good drivers can be extremely
> exciting for both, and you both lose out if you collide.
> >You should know, I still have whiplash from that race at Monza......:-)
> I can see you'll never let me live that one down <g>
> Maybe I should just say "warp!" or "he braked too early" like everyone else
> ;-)
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