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XP, SBLive, TSW

Eldre

XP, SBLive, TSW

by Eldre » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:25:58

Well, I built a new computer(thanks to a generous fellow sim racer).  Since the
mobo doesn't have any ISA slots, I can't use my PDPL gamecard.  The USB wheel I
have doesn't have split-axis, so that makes it difficult to drive.  I tried
using my SBLive's gameport to run my TSW wheel.  Couldn't find(or create) a
config that worked right.  Either the config didn't show both pedals, or the
calibrate screen kept jumping around.  This is a winXP system, and I'm sure I'm
just not used to XP yet.  Any assistance would be appreciated.  Thanks!

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bob

XP, SBLive, TSW

by bob » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 09:45:04


no wonder u suck so bad, your steering has probably been lagged this whole
time

Jone Tytlandsvi

XP, SBLive, TSW

by Jone Tytlandsvi » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:06:58


> some ***

Who is this moron? There are many different people here but I thought
children would find it boring and go away.
ZZ

XP, SBLive, TSW

by ZZ » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 10:26:01

Eldred, which verson of Direct X are you using? Try DX 9, or reinstall it.

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Eldre

XP, SBLive, TSW

by Eldre » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:06:40

It's just a question of mind over matter.  I don't mind, 'cause he doesn't
matter...

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Eldre

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by Eldre » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 13:07:28

It was DX9, loaded when I installed N2k3.

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bob

XP, SBLive, TSW

by bob » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 14:54:23


I try to help you and you get all philosophical? wtf

Uwe Sch??rkam

XP, SBLive, TSW

by Uwe Sch??rkam » Wed, 10 Nov 2004 18:50:07


Hi Eldi,

cannot really comment as I'm not on XP, but my TSW works fine on the
SBLive's game port. I had to do some simple rewiring that's outlined
on my homepage (see below for URL), and then I defined a new entry in
win98se as a standard 3 axis / 4 button joystick and it worked just
fine.

Make sure you disable / enable "poll with interrupts enabled" in the
game controller config, cannot remember which one it was.

Let me know if you need more help and I'll be happy to.

cheers,

uwe

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Phillip Malphrus, Jr

XP, SBLive, TSW

by Phillip Malphrus, Jr » Thu, 11 Nov 2004 00:50:10

I have xp. The short of it is that it will be very difficult to get the TSW
working with XP correctly. With my TSW2, it would work but work poorly
because the option Uwe was talking about does not exist in XP, poll with
interrupts enabled. So, I didnt have that much success until I got new lower
grade 200 pots from Thomas Enterprises and a USB converter, then it was a
ton better. They actually have a better method now that will basically
rewire the TSW into a "native" USB controller with the high grade pots and
that is what I will do eventually but havent since I dont drive that much
right now. So, I would go that route ...


Kendt Eklu

XP, SBLive, TSW

by Kendt Eklu » Thu, 11 Nov 2004 01:45:45


> Well, I built a new computer(thanks to a generous fellow sim racer).  Since the
> mobo doesn't have any ISA slots, I can't use my PDPL gamecard.  The USB wheel I
> have doesn't have split-axis, so that makes it difficult to drive.  I tried
> using my SBLive's gameport to run my TSW wheel.  Couldn't find(or create) a
> config that worked right.  Either the config didn't show both pedals, or the
> calibrate screen kept jumping around.  This is a winXP system, and I'm sure I'm
> just not used to XP yet.  Any assistance would be appreciated.  Thanks!

> Eldred
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I had the same problem upgrading a friend's computer to XP because he
had a TSW wheel.  Its been a little while, but IIRC particular models
of the TSW do not work well under XP with the gameport. I think the 2
options are an upgrade from TSW, or a gameport-USB converter.

HTH,
Kendt

Plowboy

XP, SBLive, TSW

by Plowboy » Thu, 11 Nov 2004 02:54:02

XP doesn't actually support game-port anymore, what 'limited' support that
is left in XP, is as stated -> very very limited, even the Microsoft wheels
& joysticks that MS branded don't work right, or fully supported anymore (on
the wheels it is impossible if not just near impossible to get separate
pedals/axis and or the Force Feedback to work under XP...)

But, as far as TSW goes, your best solution is to get the (1 or 2 part
solution) upgrade/fix directly from Thomaswheel, or atleast get the same
exact components elsewhere...  Their (1) gameport to USB converter is the
best one out there (they do not MFG it) and (2) then many wheels have to
have the POTs (potentiometers that the wheel and pedals use to detect/relay
movement or input) changed to ones that are compatable with the signals that
the USB device expects.  as far as I have read on the boards over the last
couple years, you can even send in the wheels and they will do the "fixes"
for a small fee, IIRC?

Kendt Eklund enlightened us with:



>> Well, I built a new computer(thanks to a generous fellow sim racer).
>> Since the mobo doesn't have any ISA slots, I can't use my PDPL
>> gamecard.  The USB wheel I have doesn't have split-axis, so that
>> makes it difficult to drive.  I tried using my SBLive's gameport to
>> run my TSW wheel.  Couldn't find(or create) a config that worked
>> right.  Either the config didn't show both pedals, or the calibrate
>> screen kept jumping around.  This is a winXP system, and I'm sure
>> I'm just not used to XP yet.  Any assistance would be appreciated.
>> Thanks!

>> Eldred
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> I had the same problem upgrading a friend's computer to XP because he
> had a TSW wheel.  Its been a little while, but IIRC particular models
> of the TSW do not work well under XP with the gameport. I think the 2
> options are an upgrade from TSW, or a gameport-USB converter.

> HTH,
> Kendt

Biz

XP, SBLive, TSW

by Biz » Thu, 11 Nov 2004 04:40:34

Bottom line is gameport support+XP=good luck...

Gameport support is severely limited in WinXP.

I thought you were a PC support guy, you should already know that?


bob

XP, SBLive, TSW

by bob » Thu, 11 Nov 2004 05:30:10

Theres a LOT he should know but doesnt

Darryl Johnso

XP, SBLive, TSW

by Darryl Johnso » Thu, 11 Nov 2004 08:05:35


Not a lot of computers in academic or corporate environments deal with
*** stuff. At least, not "in the open". Many companies run programs
to sniff out and remove games from computers on their networks.

When I was in the office envirnment, my support guys knew a ton of
stuff about network protocols, security, doing massive upgrades to a
few hundred computers at a go, and a whole bunch of other stuff. They
knew diddley about gameports, or whether ATI was better than nVidia at
rendering GPL or NR2K3.

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Eldre

XP, SBLive, TSW

by Eldre » Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:26:12


writes:

>Subject:    Re: XP, SBLive, TSW

>Date:       Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:30:10 -0500

>> I thought you were a PC support guy, you should already know that?

>Theres a LOT he should know but doesnt

Like what's your beef?  I don't know you from Adam, but you've for some reason
decided to insult me at every chance.  So bob - why *have* you picked me as
your random anonymous internet target?

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