rec.autos.simulators

Does BRD offer force feedback now?

I have had two BRD wheels and pedal set-up's from over six years ago and
they are both working great.

My older BRD wheel and pedals set-up (formerly known as the Interactive
Racing GP500) is now on my "second" pc, this has the old "torsion tube"
type return mechanism for the steering column.

My newer BRD wheel and pedals set-up also has the ball raced spring
return mechanism (much more positive feel).

Apart from buying some new (pedal) springs about once every two years,
and having my old BRD wheel and pedals serviced (once) they have
performed great and will last a lifetime if looked after.

These babies are the best you can get, and BRD are always very helpful.

NB: I also have a BRD Race Frame Pro***pit & seat set-up...!   8-)

For more info and pictures, go to...

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

and also...

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

I think I read about a BRD FF wheel coming very soon in Autosimsport -  
about 2 grand from memory.

When only the best will do.

Chad Rogers

Hi gang, been reading here awhile but this is my first post. I've heard
BRD and ECCI are both good equipment but TSW has to be considered also,
durability and customer service are second to none. I have what was the
top model about 8 years ago and haven't spent a dime on it since day
one. If your really hung up on FF then TEI can't help you but after
owning a TSW for this long,  I wouldn't go back  to FF unless I could
afford some radical $15,000 simulator that can do it properly. I have
an "Old Red" LWFF wheel that I upgraded with  full bearings and it
works well but I'm much more consistant with the Thomas. Considering
TSW's have a "Lifetime" warranty ...it's  a good place to put your $$$;)

And whilst technically, all three do not have the usual force feedback
method of say Microsoft, Logitech or Momo type wheels, they all employ
their own methods of giving good driver feedback.

Links to the three makers websites are here:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

I reviewed all three makers in my wbpage about a year ago (see link
below) its a tad out of date as I haven't had time to update it lately,
but its still relevant today.

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

I'm biased towards BRD cos I have two of them, and their***pits are
great quality and value too (and I also have one of those), but I can
see that ECCI and TSW are great quality, and in a similar price bracket
too.

Until someone brings out a good quality, reliable, and accurate force
feedback system, BRD, TSW and ECCI are the best there is at the
moment...

8-)

*Peter* -  http://www.racesimcentral.net/

It will most likely be extremely expensive though.

You are right.  I've been lost since my MSFFW died.  I've got a black momo
now and I just cannot get the hang of this thing.  I look like a total
amatuer out there on the track.

-Larry

Btw, are you guys willing to pay like 500+ dollars for a good quality
wheel/pedal set. I personally believe that this is quite a lot of money and
only a very small margin of simracers are so enthusiastic that they put so
much money to it. I will certainly do that, but this is something I really
like and love, apart from the real racing a have chance to do occasionally.

$500 dollars a lot of money? I bought my ECCI wheel/pedal system in March
of 1996. It's almost 10 years old! Since then it's cost me maybe 15 bucks
for springs and button replacment and it's as solid and tight as the day it
arrived.
 Contrast that with the big white box on my desk which may as well have a
flush handle on the side of it, expensive hardware goes through that thing
like shit through a goose. High end wheel systems are worth every penny,
you appreciate their quality everytime you touch them and their performance
doesn't deteriorate like almost everything else in the computer chain. And
in terms of retaining value, I could probably sell my ECCI system today for
a good portion of what I paid for it. How much do you think I could get for
a ten year old video card, or motherboard, or cpu, or harddrive.........

Don

Cheaper wheels tend to last 2/3 yrs usually until they need
replacement, my TSW is 8 yrs old and shows no sign of excessive wear or
sloppiness in either the wheel or pedal unit. Only once I've had to
replace a wheel centering spring and that was shipped free of charge in
less than a week. A "Lifetime" warranty is worth alot;)

Im not doggin you honest, Lets just look at the facts.  The troubles I seen
(and tried to work through as a tech & friend), read, & encountered with the
older logitech drivers and other issues.  That is the fact that would be
making me state the above.   In my Humble Estimation, one in 10 Logitech
owners, could setup the wheel correctly (more importantly keep it from
goofing itself up within minutes ruining the experience, by not one fault of
their own BTW...

SO I will ask, now days is it one in 5?  so in 500 wheels, 100 of you had a
fair and working chance to judge it, as I see it, the odds are against you
having been the lucky 20% to setup the wheel & FF.

Because I say this, I am only going by logic, of which you enlighten me
with, pushed into a thought about my experiences with both logitech,
Thrustcrapper, and finally Sidewinder wheels.  when you have FF that is
setup and works like it does in my humble opinion, you wont go back to
springs...

that is my $.02 (USD)...

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