Did anyone else see Richard Petty playing NASCAR Racing last
night on ESPN 2 at the Daytona USA grand opening. He was on
the Daytona track, looks like there is an official one out there
but not for us, at least for now.
Did anyone else see Richard Petty playing NASCAR Racing last
night on ESPN 2 at the Daytona USA grand opening. He was on
the Daytona track, looks like there is an official one out there
but not for us, at least for now.
I saw that one too. Makes you wonder how THAT happened... Maybe Mr. France
could tell us...
--Spyder
> I saw that one too. Makes you wonder how THAT happened... Maybe Mr. France
> could tell us...
> --Spyder
> >Did anyone else see Richard Petty playing NASCAR Racing last
> >night on ESPN 2 at the Daytona USA grand opening. He was on
> >the Daytona track, looks like there is an official one out there
> >but not for us, at least for now.
Did'nt anybody else see the huge blueprint one of the developers was holding , it was
clearly an architect rendering of DAYTONA.
I didnt want to FIRE this place up so I never mentioned it , but now its out and I must
say I do not believe that we will ever race on the track without going to Daytona USA
and doing it there.
It just seems to finally make sense of why the Daytona folks were not willing to release
the license to PAPY. They had plans for it all along , please remember that PAPY has
known about this as well , and they never said a word the whole time all of the pleas
were coming for the track. Now that it has been seen by the general puplic we get this
"OH Yes by the way there is a Daytona track".
Exuse me if I sound miffed , because , well I am miffed. I am not very happy at all with
all of the recent passing of events. Sega my Foot!!
James
>> I saw that one too. Makes you wonder how THAT happened... Maybe Mr. France
>> could tell us...
>> --Spyder
>> >Did anyone else see Richard Petty playing NASCAR Racing last
>> >night on ESPN 2 at the Daytona USA grand opening. He was on
>> >the Daytona track, looks like there is an official one out there
>> >but not for us, at least for now.
>I had noticed it also in the current edition of Sierras INTERACTION mag.
>Did'nt anybody else see the huge blueprint one of the developers was holding , it was
>clearly an architect rendering of DAYTONA.
>I didnt want to FIRE this place up so I never mentioned it , but now its out and I must
>say I do not believe that we will ever race on the track without going to Daytona USA
>and doing it there.
>It just seems to finally make sense of why the Daytona folks were not willing to release
>the license to PAPY. They had plans for it all along , please remember that PAPY has
>known about this as well , and they never said a word the whole time all of the pleas
>were coming for the track. Now that it has been seen by the general puplic we get this
>"OH Yes by the way there is a Daytona track".
>Exuse me if I sound miffed , because , well I am miffed. I am not very happy at all with
>all of the recent passing of events. Sega my Foot!!
>James
You couldn't be more wrong. I'm sorry you're miffed, but it's
misguided. We are working very closely with NASCAR. We also worked
closely with ISC to do the Daytona USA exhibit. The truth of the
matter is that THEY appoached US to do the exhibit & the track.
Does this mean that we have the rights to use it in the game? No.
Sega has the license until April '97. Does this mean that we would
like to get it? Certainly we want to get it. And we're trying.
The fact that we don't have it in the game now has EVERYTHING to do
with the fact that Sega has the exclusive license, and NOTHING to do
with any incorrect thought that ISC doesn't want the track in the
Papyrus game. I mean, come on... what you're suggesting is that ISC
is trying to capitalize on the excitiment/hype of the Sega/Daytona
issue in order to get more people to visit the new theme park? You
really think ISC needs any help in getting people to go there?
As for you comment that Papyrus knew about the Daytona USA pavillion &
we never said anything about it here on r.a.s.. 1) Of course we
knew... we wrote the thing. 2) For P/R reasons, nothing was said
about ANY of the pavillions at Daytona USA before the opening. That's
pretty much standard practice when you're opening something that big.
You don't hear us up here talking about our product plans a year from
now either, do you?
Excuse me for going off on this a little... it's nothing personal,
James. But I don't want this type of incorrect informaton to get out
of hand.
Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
writes
Hi James
So Papyrus should come along and say "Guess what guys? We've got
DAYTONA!!!!! No, course you can't have it" - they'd be ***ed! Look at
the hassle Jed got.
So now Papyrus have given Daytona a version of NASCAR Racing, including
the Daytona track - by the admission of everyone who's seen it, it looks
VERY nice. So Daytona are grateful to Papyrus. So Daytona can see what
excellent work Papyrus do. So Daytona can see that just perhaps it would
be a good idea to license this track to Papyrus / NRL / Hawaii.
Rome wasn't built in a day, but it's there now - give them time, I can't
see that Papyrus have done anything wrong here, it's a shrewd move.
Cheers!
John
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All, in this whole Daytona track thing, including mine, ISC are not
the bad guys at all. They are very keen to work with Papyrus on the
Daytona project and Ed has proved that by stating that ISC came to
them.
Now, can everybody understand why Andrew Gurtis as ISC asked me not to
release my patch? Its pretty obvious that ISC want to allow Papyrus to
create Daytona, they just don't want to upset and applecarts before
the time comes.
After dialouge with ISC I was aware what was going on and decided to
play the game. Its just a political thing.
Ed, good luck with the whole Daytona thing. I hope you get the gig and
that The Pits and my little project doesn't***anything up.
Jed
The Pits
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> > I saw that one too. Makes you wonder how THAT happened... Maybe Mr. France
> > could tell us...
> > --Spyder
> > >Did anyone else see Richard Petty playing NASCAR Racing last
> > >night on ESPN 2 at the Daytona USA grand opening. He was on
> > >the Daytona track, looks like there is an official one out there
> > >but not for us, at least for now.
> I had noticed it also in the current edition of Sierras INTERACTION mag.
> Did'nt anybody else see the huge blueprint one of the developers was holding , it was
> clearly an architect rendering of DAYTONA.
> I didnt want to FIRE this place up so I never mentioned it , but now its out and I must
> say I do not believe that we will ever race on the track without going to Daytona USA
> and doing it there.
> It just seems to finally make sense of why the Daytona folks were not willing to release
> the license to PAPY. They had plans for it all along , please remember that PAPY has
> known about this as well , and they never said a word the whole time all of the pleas
> were coming for the track. Now that it has been seen by the general puplic we get this
> "OH Yes by the way there is a Daytona track".
> Exuse me if I sound miffed , because , well I am miffed. I am not very happy at all with
> all of the recent passing of events. Sega my Foot!!
> James
Seeya,
Keith
> Its obvious that Ed and the Papyrus team want Daytona in NCR as much
>as we do. But until April of 1997, nothing will happen. So let's just
>calm down, and wait until then. If it can be worked out then, great. The
>more we talk about it, the slower that April '97 will get here.
>Chill ! :)
>-
Todd
Look,
Its obvious that Ed and the Papyrus team want Daytona in NCR as much
as we do. But until April of 1997, nothing will happen. So let's just
calm down, and wait until then. If it can be worked out then, great. The
more we talk about it, the slower that April '97 will get here.
Chill ! :)
-
Believe me, Bill France and the NASCAR execs want nothing more than to
extend the reach of this great racing series into the future. And they
are masters of MARKETING ! Anything that will bring more fans into the
sport, they will try and do. So Daytona will come, just be patient.
-
> Its obvious that Ed and the Papyrus team want Daytona in NCR as much
>as we do. But until April of 1997, nothing will happen. So let's just
>calm down, and wait until then. If it can be worked out then, great. The
>more we talk about it, the slower that April '97 will get here.
> >> I saw that one too. Makes you wonder how THAT happened... Maybe Mr. France
> >> could tell us...
> >> --Spyder
> >> >Did anyone else see Richard Petty playing NASCAR Racing last
> >> >night on ESPN 2 at the Daytona USA grand opening. He was on
> >> >the Daytona track, looks like there is an official one out there
> >> >but not for us, at least for now.
> >I had noticed it also in the current edition of Sierras INTERACTION mag.
> >Did'nt anybody else see the huge blueprint one of the developers was holding , it was
> >clearly an architect rendering of DAYTONA.
> >I didnt want to FIRE this place up so I never mentioned it , but now its out and I must
> >say I do not believe that we will ever race on the track without going to Daytona USA
> >and doing it there.
> >It just seems to finally make sense of why the Daytona folks were not willing to release
> >the license to PAPY. They had plans for it all along , please remember that PAPY has
> >known about this as well , and they never said a word the whole time all of the pleas
> >were coming for the track. Now that it has been seen by the general puplic we get this
> >"OH Yes by the way there is a Daytona track".
> >Exuse me if I sound miffed , because , well I am miffed. I am not very happy at all with
> >all of the recent passing of events. Sega my Foot!!
> >James
> James,
> You couldn't be more wrong. I'm sorry you're miffed, but it's
> misguided. We are working very closely with NASCAR. We also worked
> closely with ISC to do the Daytona USA exhibit. The truth of the
> matter is that THEY appoached US to do the exhibit & the track.
> Does this mean that we have the rights to use it in the game? No.
> Sega has the license until April '97. Does this mean that we would
> like to get it? Certainly we want to get it. And we're trying.
> The fact that we don't have it in the game now has EVERYTHING to do
> with the fact that Sega has the exclusive license, and NOTHING to do
> with any incorrect thought that ISC doesn't want the track in the
> Papyrus game. I mean, come on... what you're suggesting is that ISC
> is trying to capitalize on the excitiment/hype of the Sega/Daytona
> issue in order to get more people to visit the new theme park? You
> really think ISC needs any help in getting people to go there?
> As for you comment that Papyrus knew about the Daytona USA pavillion &
> we never said anything about it here on r.a.s.. 1) Of course we
> knew... we wrote the thing. 2) For P/R reasons, nothing was said
> about ANY of the pavillions at Daytona USA before the opening. That's
> pretty much standard practice when you're opening something that big.
> You don't hear us up here talking about our product plans a year from
> now either, do you?
> Excuse me for going off on this a little... it's nothing personal,
> James. But I don't want this type of incorrect informaton to get out
> of hand.
> Ed Martin
> Producer, Series Director
> NASCAR Racing League
> Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.
James
>> Its obvious that Ed and the Papyrus team want Daytona in NCR as much
>>as we do. But until April of 1997, nothing will happen. So let's just
>>calm down, and wait until then. If it can be worked out then, great. The
>>more we talk about it, the slower that April '97 will get here.
>>Chill ! :)
>I agree, Ed what is the status of Indy for Nascar???
>Todd
Matt Myers
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Expressing individualism is just plain wrong.
Crow T. Robot
We are also working on getting Indy, but nothing to report yet.
Ed Martin
Producer, Series Director
NASCAR Racing League
Papyrus / Sierra On-Line, Inc.