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by **Kirk Hous** » Tue, 13 Mar 2001 04:00:41

Hi has anybody successfully bump drafted in N4? I don't want to try it
out online until I know it works. I'm not planning on doing it unless I'm
on a straight and only if I'm a going a little bit faster than the guy in
front. Any ideas? Is ping a factor?

by **Morgan V. Woote** » Tue, 13 Mar 2001 05:21:37

Bump drafting does work in N4. I don't race online, but I don't think I would
try it unless I had a fast connection and A LOT of practice. I've tried bump
drafting with the AI cars and almost always come up on them so fast that I
actually wind up crashing both of us. Gotta be real smooth. Lots of fun once you
get it right.

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Morgan Vincent Wooten
GPLRank: +10.02
http://home.earthlink.net/~morganv00/
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by **Rob Adam** » Tue, 13 Mar 2001 06:11:33

I haven't N4'd on line, but I have GPL'ed a lot, and in my experience if you
get closer than a few feet to another car and either of you warps even a
little, you'll both crash and burn.

Problem is, the collision detection code can't handle the fact that your
cars overlap for an instant, and assumes one of you hit the other at a
million miles an hour, with drastic results. It may be that Papy has
improved this for N4, but they can't have fixed it all.

Bottom line is, if you bump draft somebody online you're probably asking for
trouble. You have to understand that the Internet is not an ideal ***
environment, and leave a bit more room that you would in real life (or even
in a LAN race).

> Bump drafting does work in N4. I don't race online, but I don't think I
would
> try it unless I had a fast connection and A LOT of practice. I've tried
bump
> drafting with the AI cars and almost always come up on them so fast that I
> actually wind up crashing both of us. Gotta be real smooth. Lots of fun
once you
> get it right.

> --
> -------------------------------------
> Morgan Vincent Wooten
> GPLRank: +10.02
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/~morganv00/
> -------------------------------------

> > Hi has anybody successfully bump drafted in N4? I don't want to try
it
> > out online until I know it works. I'm not planning on doing it unless
I'm
> > on a straight and only if I'm a going a little bit faster than the guy
in
> > front. Any ideas? Is ping a factor?

by **Razorbac** » Tue, 13 Mar 2001 07:02:22

On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 20:21:37 GMT, "Morgan V. Wooten"

>Bump drafting does work in N4. I don't race online, but I don't think I would
>try it unless I had a fast connection and A LOT of practice. I've tried bump
>drafting with the AI cars and almost always come up on them so fast that I
>actually wind up crashing both of us. Gotta be real smooth. Lots of fun once you
>get it right.

I use it... but then I have the convenience of a LAN and a few human
racers. :)

RB

by **Michael Barlo** » Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:20:37

>I haven't N4'd on line, but I have GPL'ed a lot, and in my experience if
you
>get closer than a few feet to another car and either of you warps even a
>little, you'll both crash and burn.

It is true that with just a bit of warp, the drafter can send the
draftee sky ward. But, I've bump drafted many times in online GPL F3 races.
In fact once I didn't just bump the driver in front of me, I pushed him most
of a strait a way. :-) But again, just a tinny bit of warp and that ends it
for both of you. I haven't attempted to bump in N4 yet but I have been
bumped and it did work for both of us. In both cases we had perfect
connections, so....

by **Paul** » Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:45:46

My league raced at Daytona on Friday, and we did some bump drafting in
practice. We found the bump to be far less beneficial than it was in N3.
The "bumpie" barely feels any acceleration from the bump. The "bumper" sees
the "bumpie's" car squat down in the rear, rather than pushing him ahead.

We decided that it's not worth the risk.

-Paul
Western States Racing League
www.wsrl.n3.net

by **Wosc** » Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:06:05

Hey Kirk, whats up?

I would only bump draft people you know. Others can get pissed. I know I
successfully bump draft my team mate all the time...it helps both of
you...you just need cooperation. The lead car must stay straight and the
following car must hit nice and square. If either of you flinch, the lead
car will probably spin. Just lift the gas a little so you don't hit too
hard.

Jesse Black

by **Dave Henri** » Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:54:32

If you want bump drafting then race Daytona on the EASY setting in
Nascar Heat. Woowieee...you can't get anywhere without being banged HARD or
doing the banging then grabbing the draft for a pull to the front...what a
hoot...real?? nawwwwww but
fun at times.
dave henrie

> My league raced at Daytona on Friday, and we did some bump drafting in
> practice. We found the bump to be far less beneficial than it was in N3.
> The "bumpie" barely feels any acceleration from the bump. The "bumper"
sees
> the "bumpie's" car squat down in the rear, rather than pushing him ahead.

> We decided that it's not worth the risk.

> -Paul
> Western States Racing League
> www.wsrl.n3.net

> > Hi has anybody successfully bump drafted in N4? I don't want to try
> it
> > out online until I know it works. I'm not planning on doing it unless
I'm
> > on a straight and only if I'm a going a little bit faster than the guy
in
> > front. Any ideas? Is ping a factor?

by **Larr** » Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:37:01

If there's no warp, it works fine.

If there's warp, then.... Zap, Pow Your off to the moon, Alice!

-Larry

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