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by **Plowbo** » Thu, 28 Dec 2006 03:29:04

Sure wish Everyone in here would chime in on the favorite LCD they bought,
and would buy again {keep em at or under $500 list prices though}.

I'm kinda re up'n this from a thread below where PDOTSON bought a set of 3
19 inch monitors that he plans to use all at once, at close to 200 (plus
ship) each. because I got past Xmas and can buy me one present. So, since
I wont be doing 3, so Im kinda wanting one decent Wide panel, of 19 inches
or bigger I think, might settle on a 2007fp or Wfp, from Dell, I dunno yet.
I got to test an acer 1617 or was it 1716? With analog only input on it,
but now I miss the colors that the monitor had compared to my dying CRT.
Still I didn't think I would buy it for anything but here at work (no games,
you know at work, lol).

I like the spec's and looks of the gateway FPD2185w and the 2275 didn't seem
to bad when I got to town to see them at best buy last week, (nearest best
buy or anything like it is 100 miles. of course the desktop it was
connected to in store had nothing to see them "play" anything. They would
be near higher than I wanna spend either way. I do watch DVD's now
sometimes at my desk but not much.

My GFX card is a AGP 7800gs (oc) with 512 ram on it, if that helps with idea
or info.

HELP! I have a hard time pulling the trigger... Yeah, I hate that I am
cheap but hate worse to save 50 bucks and be disappointed, as I can't undo
it with more money later. anyone here got suggestions?

by **Daru** » Thu, 28 Dec 2006 05:51:32

I bought the Dell 2007WFP a few months back and love it. 1680x1050
native res. I run GTR2, rF, GTL, NR2003 primarily and have no issues
with any of them.

by **Plowbo** » Thu, 28 Dec 2006 07:14:29

There seems to be a "lottery" about the 2007 models of the WFP especially,
they changed the MFG'd screen from uh, um well the type of LCD panel used to
make the panels, well read this... (copied from Anandtech website/forums...

"Dell UltraSharp 2007WFP (panel lottery, PVA panel of poor quality). The
S-IPS version belongs above the VX2025WM in the Multimedia section. Those
who are willing to take the gamble and exchange until they get an S-IPS are
welcome to, but because of this panel lottery it can't be recommended to the
general public. The de-throning is extremely unfortunate because the S-IPS
version is the flagship of 20" widescreen LCDs, second only to the NEC
20WMGX2. The PVA version doesn't even come close (it's bad even for PVA,
you'd probably prefer a TN). "

Yeah I Screwed around too long to try now, lol. over or near $600 (U.S.)
for the NEC I would like to have... so Im still torn.

so I dont know if Dell is on my list anymore.

Darus enlightened us with:

>> Sure wish Everyone in here would chime in on the favorite LCD they
>> bought, and would buy again {keep em at or under $500 list prices
>> though}.

>> I'm kinda re up'n this from a thread below where PDOTSON bought a
>> set of 3 19 inch monitors that he plans to use all at once, at close
>> to 200 (plus ship) each. because I got past Xmas and can buy me one
>> present. So, since I wont be doing 3, so Im kinda wanting one
>> decent Wide panel, of 19 inches or bigger I think, might settle on a
>> 2007fp or Wfp, from Dell, I dunno yet. I got to test an acer 1617 or
>> was it 1716? With analog only input on it, but now I miss the
>> colors that the monitor had compared to my dying CRT. Still I didn't
>> think I would buy it for anything but here at work (no games, you
>> know at work, lol).

>> I like the spec's and looks of the gateway FPD2185w and the 2275
>> didn't seem to bad when I got to town to see them at best buy last
>> week, (nearest best buy or anything like it is 100 miles. of course
>> the desktop it was connected to in store had nothing to see them
>> "play" anything. They would be near higher than I wanna spend
>> either way. I do watch DVD's now sometimes at my desk but not much.

>> My GFX card is a AGP 7800gs (oc) with 512 ram on it, if that helps
>> with idea or info.

>> HELP! I have a hard time pulling the trigger... Yeah, I hate that
>> I am cheap but hate worse to save 50 bucks and be disappointed, as I
>> can't undo it with more money later. anyone here got suggestions?

> I bought the Dell 2007WFP a few months back and love it. 1680x1050
> native res. I run GTR2, rF, GTL, NR2003 primarily and have no issues
> with any of them.

by **Larr** » Fri, 29 Dec 2006 03:31:21

I have the Gateway FPD2185w and I've had no issues with it at all. Great
for work and ***.

My only gripe is the warranty is only 1 year.

-Larry

by **Plowbo** » Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:56:05

Larry,

a dell 2007 wfp that is any good {seems they have switched mfg's on them or
least the LCD part itself}.

> I have the Gateway FPD2185w and I've had no issues with it at all. Great
> for work and ***.

> My only gripe is the warranty is only 1 year.

> -Larry

>> Sure wish Everyone in here would chime in on the favorite LCD they
>> bought, and would buy again {keep em at or under $500 list prices
>> though}. I'm kinda re up'n this from a thread below where PDOTSON bought
>> a
>> set of 3 19 inch monitors that he plans to use all at once, at close
>> to 200 (plus ship) each. because I got past Xmas and can buy me one
>> present. So, since I wont be doing 3, so Im kinda wanting one
>> decent Wide panel, of 19 inches or bigger I think, might settle on a
>> 2007fp or Wfp, from Dell, I dunno yet. I got to test an acer 1617 or
>> was it 1716? With analog only input on it, but now I miss the
>> colors that the monitor had compared to my dying CRT. Still I didn't
>> think I would buy it for anything but here at work (no games, you
>> know at work, lol). I like the spec's and looks of the gateway FPD2185w
>> and the 2275
>> didn't seem to bad when I got to town to see them at best buy last
>> week, (nearest best buy or anything like it is 100 miles. of course
>> the desktop it was connected to in store had nothing to see them
>> "play" anything. They would be near higher than I wanna spend
>> either way. I do watch DVD's now sometimes at my desk but not much.

>> My GFX card is a AGP 7800gs (oc) with 512 ram on it, if that helps
>> with idea or info.

>> HELP! I have a hard time pulling the trigger... Yeah, I hate that
>> I am cheap but hate worse to save 50 bucks and be disappointed, as I
>> can't undo it with more money later. anyone here got suggestions?

by **Larr** » Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:48:56

No experience with the Dells.

The Gateway has been fine for me. It's probably cheaper than it was when I
got mine too.

You should be able to see it hooked up at Best Buy. That's where I got
mine.

-Larry

> Larry,

> you really like it? I been researching, it is in the price range refurb

> find a dell 2007 wfp that is any good {seems they have switched mfg's on
> them or least the LCD part itself}.

>> I have the Gateway FPD2185w and I've had no issues with it at all. Great
>> for work and ***.

>> My only gripe is the warranty is only 1 year.

>> -Larry

>>> Sure wish Everyone in here would chime in on the favorite LCD they
>>> bought, and would buy again {keep em at or under $500 list prices
>>> though}. I'm kinda re up'n this from a thread below where PDOTSON bought
>>> a
>>> set of 3 19 inch monitors that he plans to use all at once, at close
>>> to 200 (plus ship) each. because I got past Xmas and can buy me one
>>> present. So, since I wont be doing 3, so Im kinda wanting one
>>> decent Wide panel, of 19 inches or bigger I think, might settle on a
>>> 2007fp or Wfp, from Dell, I dunno yet. I got to test an acer 1617 or
>>> was it 1716? With analog only input on it, but now I miss the
>>> colors that the monitor had compared to my dying CRT. Still I didn't
>>> think I would buy it for anything but here at work (no games, you
>>> know at work, lol). I like the spec's and looks of the gateway FPD2185w
>>> and the 2275
>>> didn't seem to bad when I got to town to see them at best buy last
>>> week, (nearest best buy or anything like it is 100 miles. of course
>>> the desktop it was connected to in store had nothing to see them
>>> "play" anything. They would be near higher than I wanna spend
>>> either way. I do watch DVD's now sometimes at my desk but not much.

>>> My GFX card is a AGP 7800gs (oc) with 512 ram on it, if that helps
>>> with idea or info.

>>> HELP! I have a hard time pulling the trigger... Yeah, I hate that
>>> I am cheap but hate worse to save 50 bucks and be disappointed, as I
>>> can't undo it with more money later. anyone here got suggestions?

by **Andi Col** » Sat, 30 Dec 2006 02:35:26

I've been using an NEC 20WGX2 for a while now and it's excellant, may

Andi.

> No experience with the Dells.

> The Gateway has been fine for me. It's probably cheaper than it was when
> I got mine too.

> You should be able to see it hooked up at Best Buy. That's where I got
> mine.

> -Larry

>> Larry,

>> you really like it? I been researching, it is in the price range refurb

>> find a dell 2007 wfp that is any good {seems they have switched mfg's on
>> them or least the LCD part itself}.

>>> I have the Gateway FPD2185w and I've had no issues with it at all. Great
>>> for work and ***.

>>> My only gripe is the warranty is only 1 year.

>>> -Larry

>>>> Sure wish Everyone in here would chime in on the favorite LCD they
>>>> bought, and would buy again {keep em at or under $500 list prices
>>>> though}. I'm kinda re up'n this from a thread below where PDOTSON
>>>> bought a
>>>> set of 3 19 inch monitors that he plans to use all at once, at close
>>>> to 200 (plus ship) each. because I got past Xmas and can buy me one
>>>> present. So, since I wont be doing 3, so Im kinda wanting one
>>>> decent Wide panel, of 19 inches or bigger I think, might settle on a
>>>> 2007fp or Wfp, from Dell, I dunno yet. I got to test an acer 1617 or
>>>> was it 1716? With analog only input on it, but now I miss the
>>>> colors that the monitor had compared to my dying CRT. Still I didn't
>>>> think I would buy it for anything but here at work (no games, you
>>>> know at work, lol). I like the spec's and looks of the gateway FPD2185w
>>>> and the 2275
>>>> didn't seem to bad when I got to town to see them at best buy last
>>>> week, (nearest best buy or anything like it is 100 miles. of course
>>>> the desktop it was connected to in store had nothing to see them
>>>> "play" anything. They would be near higher than I wanna spend
>>>> either way. I do watch DVD's now sometimes at my desk but not much.

>>>> My GFX card is a AGP 7800gs (oc) with 512 ram on it, if that helps
>>>> with idea or info.

>>>> HELP! I have a hard time pulling the trigger... Yeah, I hate that
>>>> I am cheap but hate worse to save 50 bucks and be disappointed, as I
>>>> can't undo it with more money later. anyone here got suggestions?

by **Plowbo** » Sat, 30 Dec 2006 05:51:55

Andi,

sell me your NEC, :P I put off going to costco for a week... More
information is needed by me, I hear that that NEC is really good for ***
(my main interest).

Andi Cole enlightened us with:

> I've been using an NEC 20WGX2 for a while now and it's excellant, may

> Andi.

>> No experience with the Dells.

>> The Gateway has been fine for me. It's probably cheaper than it was
>> when I got mine too.

>> You should be able to see it hooked up at Best Buy. That's where I
>> got mine.

>> -Larry

>>> Larry,

>>> you really like it? I been researching, it is in the price range

>>> cannot hope to find a dell 2007 wfp that is any good {seems they
>>> have switched mfg's on them or least the LCD part itself}.

>>>> I have the Gateway FPD2185w and I've had no issues with it at all.
>>>> Great for work and ***.

>>>> My only gripe is the warranty is only 1 year.

>>>> -Larry

>>>>> Sure wish Everyone in here would chime in on the favorite LCD they
>>>>> bought, and would buy again {keep em at or under $500 list prices
>>>>> though}. I'm kinda re up'n this from a thread below where PDOTSON
>>>>> bought a
>>>>> set of 3 19 inch monitors that he plans to use all at once, at
>>>>> close to 200 (plus ship) each. because I got past Xmas and can
>>>>> buy me one present. So, since I wont be doing 3, so Im kinda
>>>>> wanting one decent Wide panel, of 19 inches or bigger I think, might
>>>>> settle
>>>>> on a 2007fp or Wfp, from Dell, I dunno yet. I got to test an acer
>>>>> 1617 or was it 1716? With analog only input on it, but now I
>>>>> miss the colors that the monitor had compared to my dying CRT. Still I
>>>>> didn't think I would buy it for anything but here at work (no
>>>>> games, you know at work, lol). I like the spec's and looks of the
>>>>> gateway
>>>>> FPD2185w and the 2275
>>>>> didn't seem to bad when I got to town to see them at best buy last
>>>>> week, (nearest best buy or anything like it is 100 miles. of
>>>>> course the desktop it was connected to in store had nothing to
>>>>> see them "play" anything. They would be near higher than I wanna
>>>>> spend either way. I do watch DVD's now sometimes at my desk but not
>>>>> much. My GFX card is a AGP 7800gs (oc) with 512 ram on it, if that
>>>>> helps
>>>>> with idea or info.

>>>>> HELP! I have a hard time pulling the trigger... Yeah, I hate
>>>>> that I am cheap but hate worse to save 50 bucks and be disappointed,
>>>>> as I can't undo it with more money later. anyone here got
>>>>> suggestions?

by **Alan Bernard** » Sun, 07 Jan 2007 01:38:47

I've owned three Gateway monitors in the past five or six years. None are
currently working. Only one of these is an LCD, which failed (backlight
problem, or something) after two years. It was an 18". My current LCD is a
ViewSonic VX910. Nice monitor, and after over a year, no problems to
report.

I don't know about current Gateway LCDs, but past ones have been known to go
bad, with this backlight (or whatever it's called) burning out. Costs 60
bills to replace the light: I just haven't gotten to fixing it yet.

Alanb

by **Plowbo** » Fri, 12 Jan 2007 03:19:44

according to a TV tech that I know, this is common in everything LCD, just
FYI... higher prices for fixing TV's etc comes if the LCD monitor/tv/etc is
one of those brands that has like mitsubishi build it and they EXCLUSIVELY
sell them with like "gateway" stamped on them. Then the parts get not only
tricky to get, but pricey. (unless yousend it in of course, but they charge
more labor than my buddy ever does retail of his services)

I have been trying to find info about Plasma TV's because they do or dont
use backlights? longivity is what I keep trying to hear about, you just
dont hear it talked about anymore, everyone is worried or marketing the 2%
(aka hardly percievable) differences in picture quality instead of if the
dang set will last more than a year before it dies. our old TV's run
forever, least until a circuit dies in the tuner and ***like that mostly,
but LCD? backlights seem to be high on death knell list.

Alan Bernardo enlightened us with:

>> I have the Gateway FPD2185w and I've had no issues with it at all. Great
>> for work and ***.

>> My only gripe is the warranty is only 1 year.

>> -Larry

> I've owned three Gateway monitors in the past five or six years. None are
> currently working. Only one of these is an LCD, which
> failed (backlight problem, or something) after two years. It was an
> 18". My current LCD is a ViewSonic VX910. Nice monitor, and after
> over a year, no problems to report.

> I don't know about current Gateway LCDs, but past ones have been
> known to go bad, with this backlight (or whatever it's called)
> burning out. Costs 60 bills to replace the light: I just haven't
> gotten to fixing it yet.
> Alanb

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