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> >   What they said Plus this...you must be on the inside line for turn one.
> >There is just enough negative camber near the outside of the turn to pull
> >you off into the quicksand if you are carrying even the ***iest bit of too
> >much speed.

> Damn, that's probably what was doing it...  Even though I *should* have been
> going slow enough to make the turn, the track was throwing me off?  Grrr...

> Eldred

> >  Exactly Joachim and Dave.  Eldred, it's about having fun, slow or not, get
> >on the track and stay there :)  Won't learn anything by leaving/not entering
> >a race.

> Well, I *wasn't* having fun...

> Eldred

> writes:

> >In other words...I'm warping. It's beyond my
> >control. I think my qualifying time demonstrated I know my way around
> >that track, so please don't tell me that was my fault. Let's blame it
> >on  Prodigy, OK?

> You race using PRODIGY?!?  If that's anything like AOL, there's a whole LOT of
> added "stuff" that impedes your connection.  Please consider finding a
> different ISP for multiplayer racing...

> Eldred

> I think it was Dave H. who warned Bristol would ended putting some
> r.a.s.'ers noses out of joint. You guys need to kiss and make up. :-)

> David G Fisher

>   Gary, fwiw, you need to learn the sim better.   A blue flag is never
> waived in N2002.  Your spotter will never say the car behind you is trying
> to lap you.  You should also have your F2 key on at all times, showing car
> postions/lead lap or not.  You could have been on the lead lap; it didn't
> show that on my F2 screen, but I have seen that been wrong before, and
> Bristol has some bugs.

>   Also, do you have your spotter on full, and if so, what did he say before
> the restart?  Only reason I'm asking is as I said, according to my info.,
> you were a lapped car, that should have been starting on the inside row,
> ahead of Dave, not with the lead lap cars.
>   Also fwiw, to save you possible trouble in the future, on the restart you
> dove low to the left of the cars ahead of you, I assume to try to pass them.
> If you had passed them before the line, you would have received a black flag
> for passing on the left before the line; and "passing" only requires your
> car's nose to be ahead of them, the pass doesn't need to be complete.

>    Re the control, good point, bet it is your conn.  Just showed you almost
> losing it out of the corners, which caused you to slow up as I was
> accelerating.

>   Also, you're posting like I hit you on purpose.  That is absolutely, flat
> out, not true.  We hit because of what I say directly above this line; your
> car was swerving as I was exiting the turn.  I had barely missed you before.
> Thinking you were just trying to get your lap back, I had accepted that, but
> once a lapped car loses contact with the leader, as you had, it needs to
> back off.
>  And fwiw, I'd highly advise against retaliation against anyone.

>   I'm sorry we hit, but it wasn't on purpose, as you believe.  I've never
> had problems admitting when I***up.

>   Since you're new to Nascar sims, hopefully some of the above will help;
> it's only meant as hints, not a lecture.

> -John

>   Yeah, well, it's my fault too Gary; you DID post a mark to make sure
> readers saw the smiley face; I should have paid more attention to that.   I
> thought the Biffle/Harvick references were funny(a good type of funny<G>)
> actually.

>   It's just one of those things; we didn't know each other beforehand,
> chances are if we did, the posts would have been understood better by both
> of us.

>   No hard feelings here, and sorry again for the contact, irregardless of
> the cause.  Hope you feel the same, and hope to see you at the next
> race............my wife/kids weren't to impressed with me getting home from
> work and jumping into a race, so we'll see about this Saturday<G>

> -John

> > John,

> > OK, so I've got the Biffle shit out of my system. I appreciate your
> > advice and will run more races against the AI w/yellows on to get the
> > restarts down correctly. I do have the spotter on full, and for the
> > Bristol race I was toggling between F1 and F2. Unfortunately, I had F1
> > on during the restart and I won't make that mistake again. As for the
> > accident itself, you hit me a ton as if I wasn't even there, hence my
> > suspicion that I was warping. For the record, I would never retaliate.
> > If that was my style, I would have stayed in the race and sandbagged
> > until you caught up to me. Of course, with my comments in this thread
> > and the Biffle references I sounded like someone hell bent on vengence.
> > It's just a game and I was just venting some frustrations. (And trying
> > to be a little bit funny...and I do mean a little!)

> > Gary (no more Mr. Biffle)

> >   Yeah, well, it's my fault too Gary; you DID post a mark to make sure
> > readers saw the smiley face; I should have paid more attention to that.
I
> > thought the Biffle/Harvick references were funny(a good type of
funny<G>)
> > actually.

> >   It's just one of those things; we didn't know each other beforehand,
> > chances are if we did, the posts would have been understood better by
both
> > of us.

> >   No hard feelings here, and sorry again for the contact, irregardless
of
> > the cause.  Hope you feel the same, and hope to see you at the next
> > race............my wife/kids weren't to impressed with me getting home
from
> > work and jumping into a race, so we'll see about this Saturday<G>

> > -John

> No worries then, eh John? Water under the bridge I say. I won't be there
> this Saturday...I'll be too busy looking for Biffle's carset ;-)))))
> Oops...I forgot we're past that!

> Gary

> > > John,

> > > OK, so I've got the Biffle shit out of my system. I appreciate your
> > > advice and will run more races against the AI w/yellows on to get the
> > > restarts down correctly. I do have the spotter on full, and for the
> > > Bristol race I was toggling between F1 and F2. Unfortunately, I had F1
> > > on during the restart and I won't make that mistake again. As for the
> > > accident itself, you hit me a ton as if I wasn't even there, hence my
> > > suspicion that I was warping. For the record, I would never retaliate.
> > > If that was my style, I would have stayed in the race and sandbagged
> > > until you caught up to me. Of course, with my comments in this thread
> > > and the Biffle references I sounded like someone hell bent on
vengence.
> > > It's just a game and I was just venting some frustrations. (And trying
> > > to be a little bit funny...and I do mean a little!)

> > > Gary (no more Mr. Biffle)

>-John

> > Definately no worries, thanks.........however, what say we sport some
Ben
> >Hur type wheels next race, and try them out on a few guys ?<G>

> Not on MY server, you won't!<g>

> Eldred
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you
> with experience...
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> -John

> > > Definately no worries, thanks.........however, what say we sport some
> Ben
> > >Hur type wheels next race, and try them out on a few guys ?<G>

> > Not on MY server, you won't!<g>

> > Eldred
> > --
> > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
> > GPLRank - under construction...

> > Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
> you
> > with experience...
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