Speak for yourself please.
Speak for yourself please.
>NO MORE NASCAR...
>Diverge a little, will you??
>There's SO many forms of motorsport, and you focus on one that has already
>been done plenty well enough (Nascar's 1 & 2)
>So play with wierd stuff.
>How's about a Mid 70's F1 sim, and a good sim of 1992, when car's were at
>their best.
>Doug
>>We want a late 70's G.P. game. The time when turbo's took over F-1. And we
>>want it with the GPL engine! Just think of getting side ways with Gilles
>>Villeneuve in turn one at Watkin's Glen. The racing then was magnificent.
>So
>>put this first in line on your to do list, we don't need another Nascar
>game
>>right now!
-----Original Message-----
Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
Date: Saturday, August 28, 1999 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: Papyrus Listen up
>Actually - just listen to this Papy.
>NO MORE NASCAR...
>Diverge a little, will you??
>There's SO many forms of motorsport, and you focus on one that has already
>been done plenty well enough (Nascar's 1 & 2)
>So play with wierd stuff.
>How's about a Mid 70's F1 sim, and a good sim of 1992, when car's were at
>their best.
>Doug
Doug,
1st of all, Papyrus doesn't make those decisions,Sierra does. And the
people at Sierra who have the final say are the accountants,just like in
every other business. All they know is that anything that has to do with
Nascar will sell and turn a decent profit. Add to that,their Nascar sims are
the most successful,and GPL was a commercial disaster,just what do you think
they will set as the programming goals for Papyrus for the next physical
year?
Joel Willstein
>But another time.. who knows ? You got information, statistics about that ?
>We are just all arguing about assumptions we think are true. I still think
>that the Non-American *** market is almost as big as the US one. Did
you
>know that at the end of 1999 that Americans won't dominate anymore the # of
>users on the Internet ? :)
pez
Andre
I really hate when Amercians claim that America is so huge, and we are
better than everything.....etc. I am from California, and its so funny to
hear people that have absolutely no idea what another country is like making
statements like I have read here.
Auto Racing sims are MORE Popular in Europe than in the US, all except for
Nascar Racing. The rest of the world hates Nascar, and we love it, so if you
are talking Nascar games, then yes the US is the biggest market. Rally?
hardly ever see a rally game in the US. Is rally more difficult and more
dangerous than Nascar in real life?? Hell yes!!. Cant see them cars fer long
enough to have a beer and holler alot though!
Lets not ruin the reputation of American Sim Racing Enthusiasts by making
bogus claims.
ML
>>> but let's face it, that user base is much smaller. (And I'm not talking
>>> worldwide TV audence, I'm talking about euro fans with PC's that can run
>>> a modern racing sim.)
>>But another time.. who knows ? You got information, statistics about that
?
>>We are just all arguing about assumptions we think are true. I still
think
>>that the Non-American *** market is almost as big as the US one. Did
>you
>>know that at the end of 1999 that Americans won't dominate anymore the #
of
>>users on the Internet ? :)
>You must be joking??? Which country is going to dominate???? If you're
>saying that the rest of the world combined will dominate - maybe, but that
>doesn't stop the fact that success in America is winning half the battle
(in
>one hit!!!) and that goes for virtually every industry.
| Bring on SODA 2 :-)
|
|
>NO MORE NASCAR...
____________________
Hydrogen and Stupidity.. The two most universal elements
>>Actually - just listen to this Papy.
>>NO MORE NASCAR...
>Here here! No more NasCrap! I'm sick of rednecks with names like***
>Trickle (is that a name or an affliction? What pissed his parents off
>that much?) and Gordan. Get into real racing for a change!
--
* rrevved at mindspring dot com
* unit.26 s.p.u.t.u.m.
* http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>>Actually - just listen to this Papy.
>>NO MORE NASCAR...
>Here here! No more NasCrap! I'm sick of rednecks with names like***
>Trickle (is that a name or an affliction? What pissed his parents off
>that much?) and Gordan. Get into real racing for a change!
>____________________
>Hydrogen and Stupidity.. The two most universal elements
Yeah... why don't those F1 blokes throw more of those goshdarnnit-great
full-course-yellows to bunch the field up... sure would make it a bunch
easier fer them rednecks to pay attention once them there car-thingies
are all in the same screenshot again. ;-)
--
Paul G
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Share what you know. Learn what you don't.
: Yeah... why don't those F1 blokes throw more of those goshdarnnit-great
: full-course-yellows to bunch the field up... sure would make it a bunch
: easier fer them rednecks to pay attention once them there car-thingies
: are all in the same screenshot again. ;-)
Why stop there - F1 could have the full Nascar "real racing" where
the rules dynamically adjust to penalise faster cars. Admittedly
McLaren would have to run without front wings because otherwise they
wouldn't have interesting on track battles with Minardi. But, hell,
it's "real racing".
--
Richard G. Clegg Only the mind is waving
Dept. of Mathematics (Network Control group) Uni. of York.
www: http://manor.york.ac.uk/top.html
Absolutely and utterly stay out of my newsreader [and I'm assuming that most
people would prefer that too] with your silly killfile remarks.
> >On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:18:59 +0100, "Douglas Ellison"
> >>Actually - just listen to this Papy.
> >>NO MORE NASCAR...
> >Here here! No more NasCrap! I'm sick of rednecks with names like***
> >Trickle (is that a name or an affliction? What pissed his parents off
> >that much?) and Gordan. Get into real racing for a change!
> *plonk*
> --
> * rrevved at mindspring dot com
> * unit.26 s.p.u.t.u.m.
> * http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Could you -be- a bigger snob?
Don't like it? Don't watch it. Don't like Papy NASCAR sims? Don't buy
'em.
Don't like whats on TV? Turn over. There's enough space and choice for
all.
Personally, I'll watch virtually any form of racing that involves four
wheeled vehicles, from F1, CART and NASCAR through to Porsche Supercup,
BTCC, WRC, BRC and down to club level Caterhams and Minis. I've never
managed to get away with Sports Prototypes but just because it's not my bag
doesn't mean I'm going to spout about how ***it is. That would just make
me sound ignorant...
Relax
Mark
Reading, UK
>>On Sat, 28 Aug 1999 08:18:59 +0100, "Douglas Ellison"
>>>Actually - just listen to this Papy.
>>>NO MORE NASCAR...
>>Here here! No more NasCrap! I'm sick of rednecks with names like***
>>Trickle (is that a name or an affliction? What pissed his parents off
>>that much?) and Gordan. Get into real racing for a change!
>>____________________
>>Hydrogen and Stupidity.. The two most universal elements
>NasCrap?
>Real racing?... Is that what those F1 cars do with margins of minutes
>in between each car? *yawn*
____________________
Hydrogen and Stupidity.. The two most universal elements