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Nascar2 problems with Rendition

Berry Kaise

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Berry Kaise » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Have installed N2 and everything works perfect in regular SVGA.
However, I have a Reactor card. Things go downhill from there. The program
loads up fine and the menus work. When I click on Race it then says:Could
not load complete track descripition. Needless to to say I'm dying to see
the Rendition version and wonder what's going on.

Any ideas? Eric, Papyrus, Intergraph, or anybody?
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Eric T. Busc

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Eric T. Busc » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00

If I had the game, I'd be more than happy to help you.  I'm waiting
patiently for my direct order to arrive (should be here tomorrow).
Just a little rant here, am I the only one who thinks there should be
some benefit to direct orders?  Shouldn't we get the game sooner than
stores?  I like how id handled Quake.  They made the full version
available from direct order well before the shareware CD showed up in
stores.  The way I see it, Sierra should want more direct orders as
they make more money of them (cutting out the middle man).  Well, I
guess I'll get off the soapbox now.  

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Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/



Glee

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Glee » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00

So, does the Reactor work with N2?

Rich


>If I had the game, I'd be more than happy to help you.  I'm waiting
>patiently for my direct order to arrive (should be here tomorrow).
>Just a little rant here, am I the only one who thinks there should be
>some benefit to direct orders?  Shouldn't we get the game sooner than
>stores?  I like how id handled Quake.  They made the full version
>available from direct order well before the shareware CD showed up in
>stores.  The way I see it, Sierra should want more direct orders as
>they make more money of them (cutting out the middle man).  Well, I
>guess I'll get off the soapbox now.  

>--

>Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
>Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/



>> Have installed N2 and everything works perfect in regular SVGA.
>> However, I have a Reactor card. Things go downhill from there. The
>program
>> loads up fine and the menus work. When I click on Race it then
>says:Could
>> not load complete track descripition. Needless to to say I'm dying to
>see
>> the Rendition version and wonder what's going on.

>> Any ideas? Eric, Papyrus, Intergraph, or anybody?

Donald R. Chapm

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Donald R. Chapm » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I have an Intergraph Reactor and it is working fine, although not as
fast as I would have hoped. Which batch file are you running?
N2REND.BAT or RENDDMA.BAT? Are you running from Win95 or from booting
to DOS. I have had best results booting to dos. Also, what bios
version of the Reactor card do you have? I still have the default,
however, some Reactor owners have updated the bios to 73 with a beta
that was available from Intergraph's FTP site, and I have heard of
mixed results. I also did a full install(98Mb) on installation of
Nascar2. Let me know what you find out.

Don Chapman

Carved In A Rock Productions, Inc.



>Have installed N2 and everything works perfect in regular SVGA.
>However, I have a Reactor card. Things go downhill from there. The program
>loads up fine and the menus work. When I click on Race it then says:Could
>not load complete track descripition. Needless to to say I'm dying to see
>the Rendition version and wonder what's going on.

>Any ideas? Eric, Papyrus, Intergraph, or anybody?
>--


Donald R. Chapm

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Donald R. Chapm » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00


>If I had the game, I'd be more than happy to help you.  I'm waiting
>patiently for my direct order to arrive (should be here tomorrow).
>Just a little rant here, am I the only one who thinks there should be
>some benefit to direct orders?  Shouldn't we get the game sooner than
>stores?  I like how id handled Quake.  They made the full version
>available from direct order well before the shareware CD showed up in
>stores.  The way I see it, Sierra should want more direct orders as
>they make more money of them (cutting out the middle man).  Well, I
>guess I'll get off the soapbox now.  

>--

>Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
>Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/

I agree, there should be some benefit to direct order. I used to do
direct orders all the time, and sometimes pre-purchase at stores like
Eletronics Boutique, but have gotten burned recently. GP2 was out in
stores for a whole week before I received my direct order. I tried to
cancel my order(so I could go buy it in the stores), but Spectrum
Holobyte said that it was already on its way so they could not cancel
it until I returned the item. I was going to direct order Nascar 2,
but when I called Sierra they told me that it would probably not be
available until the end of December. This was after I had already read
reliable posts about its availability this week, as well as the press
release on ALLGAMES.COM. So I decided not to chance it with the direct
order. For Nascar 2, (which I finally found available copies of at
EBX), I just kept checking around. Best Buy knew nothing, CompUSA had
a space on the shelves but did not know when it would be in,
Electronics Boutique(which I believe is the same company as EBX) said
they had them, then when I arrived at the store they said there were
only 5 pre-orders available and they could not sell me one, but they
would have more Friday or early next week. While I was still in the
store, an apparent friend of said employee walked in inquring about
available new games and while I was in earshot, the employee said "We
got Nascar 2 if you want to check it out."  I will not go back to that
store.

I also stopped doing direct order because it is so difficult to get
your money back if you want to stop the order, or return the product.
I purchased 2 Intergraph Reactor cards that I now have working great,
but because they are impossible to find in any retail stores, I
ordered direct from Intergraph. They arrived promptly which was good,
but I struggled for 2 weeks with tecnical support before I got one of
them working. I was going to send it back but it was going to be such
a hassle, so I kept it and now I'm glad I did. However, I just
recently purchased a Diamond Monster 3D over the Orchid Righteous 3D
only because I could not get a straight answer from Orchid Direct
Order as to when I could expect delivery of the product(they are
backordered) and what the return policy was if I had problems getting
it working or was not satisfied.  The Diamond Monster 3D was available
at Computer City which has a 30 day full refund return policy. The
Orchid Righteous 3D like the Intergraph Reactor is virtually
impossible to find in stores, so direct order is the only option.
Fortunately, the Diamond Monster 3D installed easily and is working
great as well.

Enough ranting, back to Nascar 2!

Don Chapman

Carved In A Rock Productions, Inc.

Gregory J. Kus

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Gregory J. Kus » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00

The Reactor works very well with NASCAR 2.  I did stumble a bit with the
Windows 95 installation procedure (perhaps because I aborted an initial
complete installation in favor of the minimal installation).  I then used
the Sierra utility to complete deinstall the game; went into DOS and
installed the minimal installation without a problem.

Once installed, I ran N2, N2REND, and finally RENDDMA without problems.

Eric T. Busc

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Eric T. Busc » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Yes it does, and apparently quite nicely.

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Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/



John Daughert

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by John Daughert » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00


> If I had the game, I'd be more than happy to help you.  I'm waiting
> patiently for my direct order to arrive (should be here tomorrow).
> Just a little rant here, am I the only one who thinks there should be
> some benefit to direct orders?  Shouldn't we get the game sooner than
> stores?  I like how id handled Quake.  They made the full version
> available from direct order well before the shareware CD showed up in
> stores.  The way I see it, Sierra should want more direct orders as
> they make more money of them (cutting out the middle man).  Well, I
> guess I'll get off the soapbox now.

> --

> Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
> Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/



> > Have installed N2 and everything works perfect in regular SVGA.
> > However, I have a Reactor card. Things go downhill from there. The
> program
> > loads up fine and the menus work. When I click on Race it then
> says:Could
> > not load complete track descripition. Needless to to say I'm dying to
> see
> > the Rendition version and wonder what's going on.

> > Any ideas? Eric, Papyrus, Intergraph, or anybody?
> > You sound bitter Eric.

David Spark

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by David Spark » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00


>Have installed N2 and everything works perfect in regular SVGA.
>However, I have a Reactor card. Things go downhill from there. The program
>loads up fine and the menus work. When I click on Race it then says:Could
>not load complete track descripition. Needless to to say I'm dying to see
>the Rendition version and wonder what's going on.

>Any ideas? Eric, Papyrus, Intergraph, or anybody?
>--


The Rendition board requires more memory than the SVGA version, I think the
minimum is 16MB.

Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

David Spark

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by David Spark » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00


>So, does the Reactor work with N2?

>Rich

Absolutely, and it looks great.

Dave (davids) Sparks
Late Night League
http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

David Sca

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by David Sca » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00


>The Rendition board requires more memory than the SVGA version, I think the
>minimum is 16MB.

For the hi-res textures, the Rendition version requires 24 MB, if you
only have 16 MB, it load the lower-res textures (liberally paraphrased
from the README.TXT)
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Kevin Litzenberge

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Kevin Litzenberge » Fri, 06 Dec 1996 04:00:00




> >So, does the Reactor work with N2?

> >Rich

> Absolutely, and it looks great.

> Dave (davids) Sparks
> Late Night League
> http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

I agree that it looks great but it doesn't look as good as ICR2 Rendition
for some reason.  The cars are not as sharp and the grandstands have some
jagged edges to them.  Still, it is a great improvement!

Kevin

Eric T. Busc

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Eric T. Busc » Sat, 07 Dec 1996 04:00:00

There is a patch planned to add anti-aliasing just like in ICR2.

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Emory University Graduate School of Arts & Sciences
Nascar Setups Page: http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~ebusch/



Eric S. Hanse

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Eric S. Hanse » Sat, 07 Dec 1996 04:00:00

You have to have the specific chip set that the N2REND.exe calls for. In
this case it is the "verite" chipset found on Creative LABS 3d blaster PCI
and a few other cards. IN the near future I hope that is will be a more
universal thing than what is at hand currently.

ERIC



> Have installed N2 and everything works perfect in regular SVGA.
> However, I have a Reactor card. Things go downhill from there. The
program
> loads up fine and the menus work. When I click on Race it then says:Could
> not load complete track descripition. Needless to to say I'm dying to see
> the Rendition version and wonder what's going on.

> Any ideas? Eric, Papyrus, Intergraph, or anybody?
> --


Berry Kaise

Nascar2 problems with Rendition

by Berry Kaise » Sat, 07 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Sorry to not give my system info, but I was in a hurry when posting. I have
a P150 w/16mb. I have tried n2rend and renddma with the same results. Game
starts fine and everything works until I click on Race when a dialog box
appears stating: Could not load complete track description. I am running it
through DOS only and have not changed any BIOS versions or settings on the
card. I did check out the readme file with regard to memory, but it says
that it automatically goes to lower res with 16mb and hi-res with 24mb.
Mine does neither. I would be happy just to see lower res at this point.<G>
Everything works perfect in regular SVGA, but hey after playing Rendition
ICR2 who can be satisfied with that.<G> I'm sure it's something that can or
will be fixable somehow, but any ideas from the group are appreciated.

BTW, I agree with all of you who preordered N2. You folks should have had
it at least a month or so before the rest of us. I always thought that was
the benefit of direct ordering.

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