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by **Sebastien Tixie** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Bonjour tout le monde,

i have : K6-233 Mhz
80 Mo Ram EDO 70ns ( is it the problem ??? )
3DFX Banshee

i play French Version.

When i play solo,i have 25 fps full detail
with 19 AI 3 fps full detail
with 19 AI 3 fps NO detail
with 5 AI 15 fps full detail
with 5 AI 15 fps NO detail

So rastering is not the problem, maybe car dynamic or AI.

I've read some problems with more than 64mb ram in EDO ?!?!?
do somebody try with less or equal 64 mb ram ??? and problems gone ???

WHY IT'S SO SLOW ??????

by **Jalo** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

>Bonjour tout le monde,

>i have : K6-233 Mhz
> 80 Mo Ram EDO 70ns ( is it the problem ??? )
> 3DFX Banshee

>i play French Version.

>When i play solo,i have 25 fps full detail
> with 19 AI 3 fps full detail
> with 19 AI 3 fps NO detail
> with 5 AI 15 fps full detail
> with 5 AI 15 fps NO detail

No, it's not your ram. It's your Processor. I have a K6-2 350 (with 128 megs
of PC100 ram, and a Monster3D II), and I get 8fps, with 19 AI, and full
detail.
It's not a problem for me though, I will probably never play against the AI.
Me and the guy's at work plan on playing this game Multi-player.

by **Scott Moor** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

>>Bonjour tout le monde,

>>i have : K6-233 Mhz
>> 80 Mo Ram EDO 70ns ( is it the problem ??? )
>> 3DFX Banshee

>>i play French Version.

>>When i play solo,i have 25 fps full detail
>> with 19 AI 3 fps full detail
>> with 19 AI 3 fps NO detail
>> with 5 AI 15 fps full detail
>> with 5 AI 15 fps NO detail

>No, it's not your ram. It's your Processor. I have a K6-2 350 (with 128
megs
>of PC100 ram, and a Monster3D II), and I get 8fps, with 19 AI, and full
>detail.
>It's not a problem for me though, I will probably never play against the
AI.
>Me and the guy's at work plan on playing this game Multi-player.

I don't think it's all the processor's fault- my K6-2 300 with 32 MB SDRAM
and a Stealth II gets over 28 FPS with 13 AI cars, drops into the ***s at
the start, but comes back up nicely- this is in 640x480 with all the
textures turned on. Unless the K6 is that much weaker than the K6-2.....

--
Scott Moore
Hoosier MotorSports
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Sports *** Network
http://www.racesimcentral.net/***.com

by **John Moor** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

It's partly a slower processor and partly your video card. If you can't
afford a cpu upgrade then get an 8 meg hercules thriller video card, gpl is
written to run best with rendition chip video cards! With that you'll get
most graphics with 5 ai cars . And the ai eats cpu speed alive. I upgraded
from a 200 too a 450 just to get full graphics all ai and 36 fps, 30 on the
grid.

by **Sebastien Tixie** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

> It's partly a slower processor and partly your video card. If you can't
> afford a cpu upgrade then get an 8 meg hercules thriller video card, gpl is
> written to run best with rendition chip video cards! With that you'll get
> most graphics with 5 ai cars . And the ai eats cpu speed alive. I upgraded
> from a 200 too a 450 just to get full graphics all ai and 36 fps, 30 on the
> grid.

If the problem is the video card , why i have no boost on framerate wheni turn
off all details ?????

*********************************
3DFX banshe = Voodoo2 in Glide (3D)
ramdac 270mhz in 2D ( 16Mo )
640x480 120hz
*********************************

Seb

by **Eric Gile** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

You don't list the type of motherboard that you have, but I would probably
assume that it is using either the Intel VX or TX chipset. These chipsets
can only cache up to 64MB of RAM. With over 64MB of RAM, you can receive a
5-15% hit in performance. This may not account for all of your problems, but
it may be one of them. Try removing 16MB to drop it down to 64 and see if
you notice any difference. I use to have a K6-200 o'clocked to 225 with 64MB
and a Voodoo1 running the alpha demo of GPL. It ran pretty darn well with
all details turned on, but I have no idea how it ran with AI since there
wasn't any in the demo! Also, make sure that your L2 cache is enabled on
your motherboard.

Eric Giles

>>Bonjour tout le monde,

>>i have : K6-233 Mhz
>> 80 Mo Ram EDO 70ns ( is it the problem ??? )
>> 3DFX Banshee

>>i play French Version.

>>When i play solo,i have 25 fps full detail
>> with 19 AI 3 fps full detail
>> with 19 AI 3 fps NO detail
>> with 5 AI 15 fps full detail
>> with 5 AI 15 fps NO detail

by **Jalo** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

It's not your video card. Your video card is fine. The AI in GPL is very
floating point intensive. The AMD K6's do not have as good of a floating
point unit as there Intel counterparts.

by **Graeme Nas** » Tue, 20 Oct 1998 04:00:00

I think you maybe have a problem with your system anyway - I have a
lowly MMX 200 with 64Mb standard RAM (in SIMMs!), and an 8Mb Herc
Thriller. I get around 13fps with a full field and full detail!!

Cheers!

--
Graeme Nash

You know what to do with "don't_spam_me"...
http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/
ICQ# 11257824

"My car appeared to disagree with my preference for living"

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Wed, 21 Oct 1998 04:00:00

I ran GPL on a Voodoo1/P200mmx and got very similar results.

On a Celeron 400/Voodoo2 system I get much better rates, but I still have
to turn off a fair amount of detail to keep the frame rate close to 30fps
consistently(ish) with 19AI.

Andrew McP

by **John Moor** » Sat, 24 Oct 1998 04:00:00

It's a well known fact { check http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~alison/gpl/index.htm
) that on systems under 300 mhz that a rendition chip is THE choice, As I said
it's a combination of things. Later, John

> >No, it's not your ram. It's your Processor. I have a K6-2 350 (with 128 megs
> >of PC100 ram, and a Monster3D II), and I get 8fps, with 19 AI, and full
> >detail.
> I think you maybe have a problem with your system anyway - I have a
> lowly MMX 200 with 64Mb standard RAM (in SIMMs!), and an 8Mb Herc
> Thriller. I get around 13fps with a full field and full detail!!

> Cheers!

> --
> Graeme Nash

> You know what to do with "don't_spam_me"...
> http://www.karisma1.demon.co.uk/
> ICQ# 11257824

> "My car appeared to disagree with my preference for living"

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