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by **Simon Brow** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 04:33:19

The only other thing to mention about IGI is that the playable demo is from
level 1, which doesn't include a big outdoor go-anywhere environment, so
it's not a particularly good advert for the game. On one of the proper
levels, I tried to find out how big the maps were, and ran in one direction
for about 30 minutes and the map still didn't end or wrap-around or
anything, so they must be huge.

I couldn't really compare it to any of those games since i've never played
them. I tried the demo of DF3LW (the pyramids level) but I wasn't
impressed. It seemed stupidly easy and the voxels were a bit messy. Didn't
seem to match up with DF1 or IGI, but it did at least have multi-player
unlike IGI.

> thanks for the info -

> I'm not a big fan of Quake type stuff - although they are pretty fun
sometimes
> (Nerf ArenaBlast was even fun too) I think I mostly enjoyed them because
of the
> great environments.

> DF Land Warrior looks absolutely great, but the AI is really, really
stupid...

> SWAT 3 - Pretty amazing but super hard in later missions....

> Rogue Spear - AI is ridiculously bad... Why was that guy killed? Oh, I
see, his
> pants got caught on a doorframe....

> Faves:
> Metal Gear - the beginning was great, but the rest was sorta ho-hum
until -

> Syphon Filter - too f-ing hard in later missions, but fantastic..

> PGA Championship Golf - too easy to pick off spectators.....; )

> I'm gonna have to look up IGI now.

by Ia » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 06:22:42

It's no GPL...

>This post is COMPLETELY off-topic, but I stumbled upon this site,
>downloaded the demo and I was amazed:
>http://www.flashpoint1985.com/
>It's a 1st person shooter, but it gives a fantastic realistic feeling,
>it's like being in a Tour of Duty episode.
>And you can also drive around in jeeps and trucks so it's a little bit
>on-topic :)
>I haven't read anything about this game, so the more amazed I was when
>I tried the demo.

>Also keep an eye out for the game Black and White, which should be
>released the coming days, it should be an amazing game:
>http://www.blackandwhite.ea.com
>It's from the same guy who made Populous, Dungeon Keeper, Magic Carpet
>and Syndicate.

>Sorry for the off-topic, but I liked the demo of Op. Flashpoint so
>much that I wanted to share it with you.

>Andre

by **Rob Adam** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 06:30:38

Yeah but it's *almost* an F1RC <g>

> It's no GPL...

> >This post is COMPLETELY off-topic, but I stumbled upon this site,
> >downloaded the demo and I was amazed:
> >http://www.flashpoint1985.com/
> >It's a 1st person shooter, but it gives a fantastic realistic feeling,
> >it's like being in a Tour of Duty episode.
> >And you can also drive around in jeeps and trucks so it's a little bit
> >on-topic :)
> >I haven't read anything about this game, so the more amazed I was when
> >I tried the demo.

> >Also keep an eye out for the game Black and White, which should be
> >released the coming days, it should be an amazing game:
> >http://www.blackandwhite.ea.com
> >It's from the same guy who made Populous, Dungeon Keeper, Magic Carpet
> >and Syndicate.

> >Sorry for the off-topic, but I liked the demo of Op. Flashpoint so
> >much that I wanted to share it with you.

> >Andre

by **Andrew MacPhers** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 07:17:00

> but it gives a fantastic realistic feeling

Absolutely, very immersive experience once you've got the hang of the keys
and control/order system. I don't have a lot of time for games (***
flight sims and GPL don't count, right? <g>) but I try to look at most
demos to keep in touch with the *** world. And this is *very* good
indeed.

Andrew McP... spending too much time climbing hills and ambushing tank
columns with his bazooka.

by **Jagg** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:40:08

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 19:24:59 GMT, "Simon Brown"

>You have excellent taste, Thief 2 is indeed fantastic, as was Thief. System
>Shock 2 should also appeal to Thief fans.

And Deus Ex.

by **Jagg** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:39:26

>DF Land Warrior looks absolutely great, but the AI is really, really stupid...

But, it's great online.

by pw » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 09:49:43

B&W was out the 28th here in Montana. I decided to pass on it (Sorry
- not part of the main stream I suppose). I have no interest
whatsoever in taking care of virtual "pets" (or people, for that
matter - i.e., The Sims).

I was enjoying the Op Flashpoint, but it CTD on my system last night
<s>. I think my system is sick.

-pw.

by **Simon Brow** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 13:06:59

How do System Shock 2 and Deus Ex compare in your view? I haven't played
Deus Ex at all, but I read it wasn't as good as SS2, and that put me off
getting it. To be honest I know virtually nothing about it. Is it horror
or sci-fi?

System Shock 2 is possibly my favorite game of all time, along with Doom
(1+2), GPL, Thief (1+2) and Ultima Underworld 2.

by **Joe6** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:50:56

>You have excellent taste, Thief 2 is indeed fantastic, as was Thief. System
>Shock 2 should also appeal to Thief fans.

I thought Thief 1 was mich better than the sequel. System Shock 2 is
totally awesome though, one of the best computer games ever made. It's
a steal in the bargain bins.

Joe McGinn
_____________________
Radical Entertainment

by **Joe6** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:52:13

>How do System Shock 2 and Deus Ex compare in your view? I haven't played
>Deus Ex at all, but I read it wasn't as good as SS2, and that put me off
>getting it. To be honest I know virtually nothing about it. Is it horror
>or sci-fi?

Sci-fi. In some ways Deus Ex is more complex, more flexible. It's a
great game, highly immersive. But it doesn't have as great and unique
atmosphere as System Shock 2, IMO.

Joe McGinn
_____________________
Radical Entertainment

by **Andre Warrin** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:22:15

On Thu, 29 Mar 2001 15:52:42 GMT, "Simon Brown"

>Have you tried Project IGI?

Yes, I love it, but the no-save option becomes frustrating.. missions
take more than an hour, and it's annoying to redo them again and
again.
At a certain moment I was in a level where I had to escape from a
camp, go to another camp which was guarded by a couple of tanks and if
I remember correct I had to invade that camp.
Is that mission even possible without cheating??
I gave up after numerous tries :(

Andre

>> This post is COMPLETELY off-topic, but I stumbled upon this site,
><snip>
>> Sorry for the off-topic, but I liked the demo of Op. Flashpoint so
>> much that I wanted to share it with you.

>> Andre

by **Andre Warrin** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:24:24

<snip>

Is this game for the pc? Never heard of it, what kind of game is it?

Andre

by **Andre Warrin** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 17:36:55

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:06:59 GMT, "Simon Brown"

>How do System Shock 2 and Deus Ex compare in your view? I haven't played
>Deus Ex at all, but I read it wasn't as good as SS2, and that put me off
>getting it. To be honest I know virtually nothing about it. Is it horror
>or sci-fi?

>System Shock 2 is possibly my favorite game of all time, along with Doom
>(1+2), GPL, Thief (1+2) and Ultima Underworld 2.

System Shock 2.. I bought it after reading a praising post about it
here on RAS, I played it for a bit but it couldn't hold my attention.
Is this one of those games that are boring at the beginning and
becomes great after a while?
Is the suspense in SS2 comparable to Half Life? (my favorite 3d game
of all time)

Andre

>> And Deus Ex.

by **Jagg** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:11:07

On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 04:06:59 GMT, "Simon Brown"

>How do System Shock 2 and Deus Ex compare in your view? I haven't played
>Deus Ex at all, but I read it wasn't as good as SS2, and that put me off
>getting it. To be honest I know virtually nothing about it. Is it horror
>or sci-fi?

>System Shock 2 is possibly my favorite game of all time, along with Doom
>(1+2), GPL, Thief (1+2) and Ultima Underworld 2.

If you like SS2 you will most likely like Deus Ex. In Deus Ex you are
a ***netic agent with various missions to complete in an interactive
environment and plays similar to SS2. There is a story to the game as
you move along.

by **Andre Warrin** » Sat, 31 Mar 2001 18:03:04

>It's no GPL...

Funny you mention this..
I told a couple of typical Quake 3 players about Op. Flashpoint, and
they told me they thought it sucked bigtime..
I felt the same as when I tried to convince a Need for Speed fan that
GPL is really more fun once you get the hang of it..

Andre

>>This post is COMPLETELY off-topic, but I stumbled upon this site,
>>downloaded the demo and I was amazed:
>>http://www.flashpoint1985.com/
>>It's a 1st person shooter, but it gives a fantastic realistic feeling,
>>it's like being in a Tour of Duty episode.
>>And you can also drive around in jeeps and trucks so it's a little bit
>>on-topic :)
>>I haven't read anything about this game, so the more amazed I was when
>>I tried the demo.

>>Also keep an eye out for the game Black and White, which should be
>>released the coming days, it should be an amazing game:
>>http://www.blackandwhite.ea.com
>>It's from the same guy who made Populous, Dungeon Keeper, Magic Carpet
>>and Syndicate.

>>Sorry for the off-topic, but I liked the demo of Op. Flashpoint so
>>much that I wanted to share it with you.

>>Andre

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