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N4 - Force Feedback Question

Larr

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Larr » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 08:02:40

Is there any way to add more 'centering spring' in N4 ?

At some tracks, mainly Dega and Daytona, my return-to-center is
non-existent, and the wheel is extremely loose 30 degree's each side of
center going down the straits.  I need some more centering spring to dampen
things down.

The centering spring controls in the SideWinder software don't really work
at all when FF is enabled in N4.

TIA

-Larry

Jack Wilso

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Jack Wilso » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 09:37:50

try setting steering ratio to 15:1 works great

Joel A. Willstei

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Joel A. Willstei » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:22:04


     I'm experiencing the same problem as Larry with my MSFF wheel.  I
changed the centering force from 0% to 100%, but still the dead zone makes
driving with the MSFF wheel almost useless.

Joel Willstein

Uncle Feste

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Uncle Feste » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:26:11


>      I'm experiencing the same problem as Larry with my MSFF wheel.  I
> changed the centering force from 0% to 100%, but still the dead zone makes
> driving with the MSFF wheel almost useless.

You did adjust the linear setting in the N4 options menu, right?  I had
the same problem with my LWFF until I changed the linear setting to 95%.

--

Fester

Larr

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Larr » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:53:21

Man, that's WAY too sensitive for Dega or Daytona :)

-Larry


> try setting steering ratio to 15:1 works great


> > Is there any way to add more 'centering spring' in N4 ?

> > At some tracks, mainly Dega and Daytona, my return-to-center is
> > non-existent, and the wheel is extremely loose 30 degree's each side of
> > center going down the straits.  I need some more centering spring to
> dampen
> > things down.

> > The centering spring controls in the SideWinder software don't really
work
> > at all when FF is enabled in N4.

> > TIA

> > -Larry

Larr

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Larr » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:54:04

Feels like you're driving one of those wheels tacked onto a Baby Car Seat,
doesn't it :)

-Larry





> > Is there any way to add more 'centering spring' in N4 ?

> > At some tracks, mainly Dega and Daytona, my return-to-center is
> > non-existent, and the wheel is extremely loose 30 degree's each side of
> > center going down the straits.  I need some more centering spring to
> dampen
> > things down.

> > The centering spring controls in the SideWinder software don't really
work
> > at all when FF is enabled in N4.

> > TIA

> > -Larry

>      I'm experiencing the same problem as Larry with my MSFF wheel.  I
> changed the centering force from 0% to 100%, but still the dead zone makes
> driving with the MSFF wheel almost useless.

> Joel Willstein

Larr

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Larr » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 10:54:22

I'm all the way to 100%.  It doesn't matter...

-Larry



> >      I'm experiencing the same problem as Larry with my MSFF wheel.  I
> > changed the centering force from 0% to 100%, but still the dead zone
makes
> > driving with the MSFF wheel almost useless.

> You did adjust the linear setting in the N4 options menu, right?  I had
> the same problem with my LWFF until I changed the linear setting to 95%.

> --

> Fester

Pierre Robitaill

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Pierre Robitaill » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 12:56:50

Try playing with the caster settings.

> Is there any way to add more 'centering spring' in N4 ?

> At some tracks, mainly Dega and Daytona, my return-to-center is
> non-existent, and the wheel is extremely loose 30 degree's each side of
> center going down the straits.  I need some more centering spring to dampen
> things down.

> The centering spring controls in the SideWinder software don't really work
> at all when FF is enabled in N4.

> TIA

> -Larry

Marc Collin

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Marc Collin » Tue, 13 Feb 2001 13:25:40

That seems to be the problem.  The only way to get decent feedback is to
tighten the steering ratio--until it is too twitchy to drive at the super
speedways.

Marc.


> Man, that's WAY too sensitive for Dega or Daytona :)

> -Larry



> > try setting steering ratio to 15:1 works great


> > > Is there any way to add more 'centering spring' in N4 ?

> > > At some tracks, mainly Dega and Daytona, my return-to-center is
> > > non-existent, and the wheel is extremely loose 30 degree's each side
of
> > > center going down the straits.  I need some more centering spring to
> > dampen
> > > things down.

> > > The centering spring controls in the SideWinder software don't really
> work
> > > at all when FF is enabled in N4.

> > > TIA

> > > -Larry

Larr

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Larr » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:50:54

Been there, done that.

It's a FF issue of some sort.

-Larry


> Try playing with the caster settings.


> > Is there any way to add more 'centering spring' in N4 ?

> > At some tracks, mainly Dega and Daytona, my return-to-center is
> > non-existent, and the wheel is extremely loose 30 degree's each side of
> > center going down the straits.  I need some more centering spring to
dampen
> > things down.

> > The centering spring controls in the SideWinder software don't really
work
> > at all when FF is enabled in N4.

> > TIA

> > -Larry

NightBree

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by NightBree » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:36:31

Remove the stability cheat in the options (this helped me to get a bit of
feeling when turning on those banked corners!) This cheat is made for a
joystick, not a wheel.
Also lower the steering ratio in car setup. Also raise Linear to 90% in
wheel config.
NB


Larr

N4 - Force Feedback Question

by Larr » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:48:20

I'm there, except for the ratio.  It gets too touchy down that low :)

-Larry


> Remove the stability cheat in the options (this helped me to get a bit of
> feeling when turning on those banked corners!) This cheat is made for a
> joystick, not a wheel.
> Also lower the steering ratio in car setup. Also raise Linear to 90% in
> wheel config.
> NB



> > Is there any way to add more 'centering spring' in N4 ?

> > At some tracks, mainly Dega and Daytona, my return-to-center is
> > non-existent, and the wheel is extremely loose 30 degree's each side of
> > center going down the straits.  I need some more centering spring to
> dampen
> > things down.

> > The centering spring controls in the SideWinder software don't really
work
> > at all when FF is enabled in N4.

> > TIA

> > -Larry


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