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by **James Lars** » Thu, 13 Sep 2001 22:13:30

With N4, after 40 laps or so, I lose all my force feedback with my Logictech
Wingman FF wheel. I pause the race, go to Options, go to controls, turn the FF
off and on, then resume the race. I may then have FF for a minute or two, but
it goes away.

Does anybody know a fix for this?

Thanks
Sincerely, James

by **Dave Henri** » Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:14:29

I've seen several posts about this topic, but I don't have a clue about
any fixes. I would suggest ANYONE who has had this symptom to email
logitech and describe what they have experienced.
As always...updating windows could be a key step to preventing such
action.
Plus...letting us know about your system specs would also be helpful.
(win98? XP? 2K what directX version etc)
dave henrie

by **James Lars** » Fri, 14 Sep 2001 04:23:28

I have the latest Wingman drivers, I'm using Windows ME and directx 8.0a.
Anybody know how to fix this?

Sincerely, James

by **Schoone** » Fri, 14 Sep 2001 03:30:01

Try turning down the strength of the force, I have heard reports where the
wheel loses force feedback once it gets too hot.

by **Mario Petrinovi** » Fri, 14 Sep 2001 04:33:59

Someone said it could be overheating problem. If you have
ff strenght more than 100% it could overheat after some time.

> I've seen several posts about this topic, but I don't have a clue about
> any fixes. I would suggest ANYONE who has had this symptom to email
> logitech and describe what they have experienced.
> As always...updating windows could be a key step to preventing such
> action.
> Plus...letting us know about your system specs would also be helpful.
> (win98? XP? 2K what directX version etc)
> dave henrie

> > With N4, after 40 laps or so, I lose all my force feedback with my
> Logictech
> > Wingman FF wheel. I pause the race, go to Options, go to controls, turn
> the FF
> > off and on, then resume the race. I may then have FF for a minute or
two,
> but
> > it goes away.

> > Does anybody know a fix for this?

> > Thanks
> > Sincerely, James

by **Morris Jone** » Fri, 14 Sep 2001 06:09:29

This was the case in mine, had it turned up to high and it was getting hot.
Turned it down to 100 and all is well.

> Someone said it could be overheating problem. If you have
> ff strenght more than 100% it could overheat after some time.

> > I've seen several posts about this topic, but I don't have a clue
about
> > any fixes. I would suggest ANYONE who has had this symptom to email
> > logitech and describe what they have experienced.
> > As always...updating windows could be a key step to preventing such
> > action.
> > Plus...letting us know about your system specs would also be helpful.
> > (win98? XP? 2K what directX version etc)
> > dave henrie

> > > With N4, after 40 laps or so, I lose all my force feedback with my
> > Logictech
> > > Wingman FF wheel. I pause the race, go to Options, go to controls,
turn
> > the FF
> > > off and on, then resume the race. I may then have FF for a minute or
> two,
> > but
> > > it goes away.

> > > Does anybody know a fix for this?

> > > Thanks
> > > Sincerely, James

by **Mario Petrinovi** » Fri, 14 Sep 2001 08:03:42

Thanks for the info. I began to worry.

by **Martin Granbe** » Fri, 14 Sep 2001 17:39:16

Turn down FF forces. This is a common problem with LWFF. Overheating
causes the motor to shut itself down.

Only fix I know of is opening the LWFF and attach fans.

/Martin

by **James Lars** » Sat, 15 Sep 2001 02:37:47

Thanks for the explanation. I'll try that. I had the FF set pretty high.

Sincerely, James

by J » Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:19:06

Funnily it's depending on the wheel.
I have some of those (guess why ;-) and only one tends to switch off during a
hot lapdance at the ring. The others never gave me probs under the same
conditions.
Cannot tell you what series this particular wheel is from, though.
Can you?

Cya
JensSchumi

>>Does anybody know a fix for this?

>Turn down FF forces. This is a common problem with LWFF. Overheating
>causes the motor to shut itself down.

>Only fix I know of is opening the LWFF and attach fans.

>/Martin

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by **Martin Granbe** » Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:06:46

>Funnily it's depending on the wheel.
>I have some of those (guess why ;-) and only one tends to switch off during a
>hot lapdance at the ring. The others never gave me probs under the same
>conditions.
>Cannot tell you what series this particular wheel is from, though.
>Can you?

Not at home right now. But I have this on two LWFF (classic) wheels.
They are from the second "version" with the stiffer pedal springs.

It happens mostly if you drive on ovals or longer races (50%) on tight
corners. Talking about GPL here.

Cheers,

/Martin

by **Martin Granbe** » Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:14:33

>Not at home right now. But I have this on two LWFF (classic) wheels.
>They are from the second "version" with the stiffer pedal springs.

I might add that the second wheel was bought over a year after the
first one, so the problem probably exists in several batches anyway.

I remember talking to Aidan from Wingmanteam abou this and he said it
was a built-in overheating protection. This isn't included in the
newer GP wheels.

Cheers,

/Martin

by **Stu_** » Mon, 17 Sep 2001 20:08:45

I had this problem too.

I narrowed it down to settings as already mentioned but it was only a
problem on tracks like Watkins Glenn and SearsPoint plus
a couple of smaller speedways.

I think it was probably due to the amount of work the wheel had to do and I
could feel the heat rising on the case when touched.

Not expeienced a problem since turning down the force in the game to 90%.

Stu C

> >Not at home right now. But I have this on two LWFF (classic) wheels.
> >They are from the second "version" with the stiffer pedal springs.

> I might add that the second wheel was bought over a year after the
> first one, so the problem probably exists in several batches anyway.

> I remember talking to Aidan from Wingmanteam abou this and he said it
> was a built-in overheating protection. This isn't included in the
> newer GP wheels.

> Cheers,

> /Martin

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