rec.autos.simulators

I've had IC1 a couple of months now - so I'm pretty much
getting the hang of it. However I've come up against
a frustrating problem. Here's an example. At Michigan I can set
the car up to achieve about 233mph average in qualifying. This
turns out to be much faster than the computer generated grid.
But at laguna Seca for example, I'm consistantly 2-3 seconds
off the pace. I've tried everything, but I cannot get the lap
times down to 1:08 (1:10.5 is my best). Is this a setup
problem or is it a game `problem'?

Also can you buy add-on circuits? In particular Indianopolis?
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many thanks

Alan
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     As in actual road course racing, the last 1-2 seconds are always the
most difficult to trim off your time. I don't know how your driving, so I
can't help there, but in general you need to be very smooth and fluid with
the car. There is much speed to be lost when entering a turn, for example,
if you forego the proper racing line and entry. IC Racing and NASCAR
Racing do a remarkable job at being fairly realistic, I believe.
Obviously, thought, there are *big* differences : )

     <<Also can you buy add-on circuits? In particular Indianopolis?>>

     Yes, there is an expansion pack available as well as a separate
expansion pack available with just IMS.
     Nick

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#6, #94 & #16 in the REAL quest for the Cup!
Go Ford!!!

As a matter of fact, the bug is in Michigan where the cars qualify
with full tanks of fuel and normal racing setups. They really should
run 233+mph laps too...

In Laguna, you should just train more, and tweak your setups, my best
lap so far is 1:07:something and i usually am the polesitter in a race
(even won one race at Laguna) The trick in Laguna is that your shocks
have to be perfectly fitted to your driving style, I.E. they must be
safe (you _do_ race with damage on?) and you can't afford to spin in
the slow corners, and with 30 Gallons of fuel gone, the car must still
be driveable.

Now this is from memory but my shock setups are something like this:

RF: 35%
RR: 65%
LR: 65%
LF: 45%

You notice the difference between the front tires? What it means is
that the car turns better to the left since the right front has better
grip. And when you study the track, you will notice that the track has
more difficult lefts than rights ---> that means 1-2 seconds faster
laps as you can drive them 10-30mph faster. Of course you'll have to
adjust your driving style too. (as an example, the second-last lefthander
before the upslope.. corner n:o.5 I think it is, well I usually drive it
120mph at the apex, real Indycar's drive it 90mph or so?)

Also on the steep upslope before the corkscrew, try setting your gears
so that you can drive the slope on the 5th gear, with the engine running
around 12500-13000 rpm. Driving the upslope in 6th gear is a serious
mistake, will cost you mebbe 1 sec or more...

btw. some people have ran 1:02 laps in Laguna (really!)

Sure, all the tracks except Miami are available as add-ons

Tommi Pajari

Also change the RELS entry to 100, this determines the  % effort of
the computer drivers. The original entry of 96 made them a bit too
weak.

Having a good steering device helps. I went from  1.09's at laguna
using a joystick to 1.07's when I got a steering wheel/pedal in a
***pit set.

It allowed me to hold a turn smoothly and make very fine adjustments
to power on the gas pedal.

Chris.

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The really hot guys are going 243+, 233 on full tanks happens!

this is one way to do it.  there are others.  i use stagger at this
track, but others hate it.

I didn't look in the***pits as they went by but it didn't look like
they were even going 90mph to me - and I camped out at T5 for the last
race.  I am told that it is possible to hit the apex of T5 at over 140mph,
but I sure can't do that...

Laguna is a very well executed track in ICR, but one thing it
doesn't get right is the grip, because I *KNOW* I'm not 5+ seconds faster
than Jacques Villeneuve :-)  (On the other hand, do notice that ICR cars
adhere to 1993 specs, which includes a lot more downforce, albeit with
older engines, tires and chassis.)

I can't agree with you on this.  This is one of the two really fast parts
of the course (the other is from T11 to T2), and if you're set up right
you hit the top of the hill at > 150mph.  Not exactly a 5th gear section
of the track.  (T2 entry is about 156mph.)  If you're at 12,500 rpm at
150mph at the top of the hill, you should be in 6th gear so you have
gearing for the rest of the track.  If you write off 6th gear here, you
are writing it off everywhere else too.

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Brian Wong                              Systems Engineering Group (Servers)

Fuel: 7 gal
Tire  Compound  PSI  Camber  Shocks
 RF     Soft     37   -2.01    90%
 RR     Soft     39   -1.68   100%
 LR     Soft     36   -1.42   100%
 LF     Soft     39   -2.08    90%
Stagger: +0.000  Steering Lock: 12
FW:  13.90       RW:  12.60
1st: 11.90       4th:  7.50
2nd:  9.80       5th:  6.80
3rd:  8.30       6th:  6.00
Anti-roll bars:  Front 8 Rear 5
Brake bias: 6    Boost level: 9

Most definately. I only hit 6th on the start/finish straight and only
for a few seconds before the left hander.

Chris.