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"I'm not an athlete, I'm a baseball player" - John Kruk
However, I must say that even though I have bought every Papyrus racing sim
since they came out with the one that started it all, I could not revert to
a physics engine that is "less" than that in GPL.
In other words, if Papyrus produce another NASCAR or CART, or even F1,
simulation that is based on the N2 engine, then they have lost a customer.
Not that the loss of my custom would send them into a hissy-fit, but my
"driving enjoyment" benchmark is now GPL. Anything less would be pap.
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>Enjoy!
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>"I'm not an athlete, I'm a baseball player" - John Kruk
So, maybe I'm still asleep this morning, but I hardly saw anything of
substance in the article about WHY he feels its a good thing. Part of one
paragraph doesn't do much for wanting to read the column more.
then you get both the arcade drivers
as well as the hard core.
The software is already there,,,
just add the cherry on top, paint them with some
of the god-awful colours and whaA-la, NASCAR2000
| Too bad he continually harps on the engine beneath GPL
like its the cause of
| all the problems with being able to "jump in" and race in
GPL. Yes, some of
| its the engine..but a lot of it is those damn lovable
cars.
|
| So, maybe I'm still asleep this morning, but I hardly saw
anything of
| substance in the article about WHY he feels its a good
thing. Part of one
| paragraph doesn't do much for wanting to read the column
more.
|
| > Jeff Downey's racing column, In the High Groove, deals
with why NASCAR
| 2000
| > won't be using the GPL engine and why he feels it is a
good thing. Here's
| > the URL straight to the article:
| > http://www.ga-sports.com/high_groove/052599/
| >
| > Enjoy!
|
|
|
|
> > I think he's wide of the mark but I can appreciate Sierras reasoning.
> > However, I must say that even though I have bought every Papyrus
> racing sim
> > since they came out with the one that started it all, I could not
> revert to
> > a physics engine that is "less" than that in GPL.
> > In other words, if Papyrus produce another NASCAR or CART, or even
> F1,
> > simulation that is based on the N2 engine, then they have lost a
> customer.
> > Not that the loss of my custom would send them into a hissy-fit, but
> my
> > "driving enjoyment" benchmark is now GPL. Anything less would be
> pap.
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Bruce.
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The internet and computers are a totally unique business where people are
fascinated by the NEW things they see and learn and purchase EVERYDAY. Papy
will lose big time if they start offering old technology. What a total
bummer
Chris
>However, I must say that even though I have bought every Papyrus racing sim
>since they came out with the one that started it all, I could not revert to
>a physics engine that is "less" than that in GPL.
>In other words, if Papyrus produce another NASCAR or CART, or even F1,
>simulation that is based on the N2 engine, then they have lost a customer.
>Not that the loss of my custom would send them into a hissy-fit, but my
>"driving enjoyment" benchmark is now GPL. Anything less would be pap.
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>Best regards,
>Bruce.
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>>Jeff Downey's racing column, In the High Groove, deals with why NASCAR
2000
>>won't be using the GPL engine and why he feels it is a good thing. Here's
>>the URL straight to the article:
>>http://www.ga-sports.com/high_groove/052599/
>>Enjoy!
>>--
>>Tony Wyss, Editor-in-Chief
>>Gamers Alliance Sports
>>www.ga-sports.com
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>>Network Developer
>>Gamers Alliance, Inc.
>>www.gagames.com
>>-------------------------------
>>"I'm not an athlete, I'm a baseball player" - John Kruk
My point with the entire article was that this was not merely a computer
horsepower issue, this was a sales based decision.
I'll agree that the "loveable" cars in GPL do contribute to them being a bit
more difficult to drive, but the physics engine has a lot more influence.
My daily columns are my opinions based upon facts as I know them. I know
that I'm not always right. In this case, perhaps my speculation is dead
wrong. But, my job is to provide an entertaining column that hopefully,
sparks some thought every now and then.
I thank you all for reading the column, and appreciate all of the feedback.
Feel freee to contact me at any time. I love a healthy debate.
Thanks,
Jeff Downey
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I am holding out, if they release N2000 in Norway I will probably get it to
support them, racing it depends
on how good it is!
Agree again, but I see no point in even trying to run N3 on my current 6-month
old config (PII333, Banshee 16MB..etc)..and
I can't yet afford an upgrade. Unless Papy sends a free PIV or whatever 1000 MHZ
chip with N3 :-)
So...why don't they give us something "less" CPU demanding in the
meantime...CanAM legends, 1971 Sportscars...
<vbg>
Matt
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All I was stating was that I could not take a step backwards and buy a new
product based on an old "core" if that is the decision made by Sierra.
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>My point with the entire article was that this was not merely a computer
>horsepower issue, this was a sales based decision.
>I'll agree that the "loveable" cars in GPL do contribute to them being a
bit
>more difficult to drive, but the physics engine has a lot more influence.
>My daily columns are my opinions based upon facts as I know them. I know
>that I'm not always right. In this case, perhaps my speculation is dead
>wrong. But, my job is to provide an entertaining column that hopefully,
>sparks some thought every now and then.
>I thank you all for reading the column, and appreciate all of the feedback.
>Feel freee to contact me at any time. I love a healthy debate.
>Thanks,
>Jeff Downey
>**** Posted from RemarQ - http://www.remarq.com - Discussions Start Here
(unsnip)
Ooooooh YE-E-E-E-AH!!!
(Said in the voice of Harry from "3rd. Rock from the Sun")
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<snipped>
Jeff,
A point I might disagree with you on is the fact that sales of GPL
were a major disappointment. Anybody with a sense of current
mainstream game buyer/player tendencies would know that sales of GPL
were not going to be stellar. GPL is too sophisticated for the US
market. Coopers, Gurneys, Loti?? Say what? I would have thought
that the main buyer interest for that title would have been the
European countries with limited *** interest in the US. I would
think that Papy knew this. The only legitimate racing title (away from
the need for speed genre) that is going to sell a ton in the US at
least is Nascar related. Lowest common denominator, pure and simple. I
rather see that GPL was a way to showcase the technology, recoup some
investment and lay the foundation for future products as the hardware
catches up. Eventually the hardware will handle 40 car fields and the
Nascar game can be made. Graphic engines may need to be upgraded but
physcis doesn't change. In the meantime, maybe they will build some
other versions of GPL to keep the spark alive.
Jeff
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><snipped>
>Jeff,
>A point I might disagree with you on is the fact that sales of GPL
>were a major disappointment
> I couldn't agree more. I own EVERY Papy sim ever made! I raced those sims
> off and on daily for years after I bought them. I have not raced ONE since
> getting GPL. I just have no interest what-so-ever in driving old, worn out,
> unrealistic sims. As far as I'm concerned they will not get another dollar
> of mine until they produce something that builds upon the last program I
> purchased.
> The internet and computers are a totally unique business where people are
> fascinated by the NEW things they see and learn and purchase EVERYDAY. Papy
> will lose big time if they start offering old technology. What a total
> bummer
> Chris
Also, I will certainly take any game made by Papyrus, if it means I
don't have to wait 2 years for any good stock car game. We know that N2
engine proved itself in the past. If they update it, I still think it's
better than not having anything to play with! I certainly would not
like it if the only other game I can play is another Nascar Revolution
from EA Sports.
Philster
tsk tsk...
We all know there is more chances we see a Sierra Sports : Bull Riding
adverti***t during the movie Grand Prix than this 8)
Will they ever do "Bull Riding Legends" ?
"Back in 1968, they changed the rules of Bull Riding because of the dangers
of the sport of the previous year. Welcome to 1967"
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