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Rob Swindells
[Rob Swindells Racing] http://www.racesimcentral.net/
"Add life to your days, not days to your life."
"The greatest substitute for talent is hard work."
"Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it."
"I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."
Yeah, but it was the most exciting indy in quite a while. It was
quite a bit of pressure for the Target team. "Yep we will show
up with your equipment and *STILL* kick your ass." Also, I
have no doubt that Montoya is head and shoulders above
zanardi.
Hopefully this will cause some merging of the 2 leagues.
--
-- JB
>Yeah, but it was the most exciting indy in quite a while. It was
>quite a bit of pressure for the Target team. "Yep we will show
>up with your equipment and *STILL* kick your ass." Also, I
>have no doubt that Montoya is head and shoulders above
>zanardi.
>Hopefully this will cause some merging of the 2 leagues.
>--
>> --
>> Rob Swindells
>> [Rob Swindells Racing] http://swindells.8m.com
>> "Add life to your days, not days to your life."
>> "The greatest substitute for talent is hard work."
>> "Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it."
>> "I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."
Devisive opinions like what? Clearly the IRL is the minor league of
openwheel racing in america. It isn't really an opinion.
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> >> Very impressive run by Montoya. Although, he was only up against
> >> competition 70-75% of the level he's used to in CART...
> >Yeah, but it was the most exciting indy in quite a while. It was
> >quite a bit of pressure for the Target team. "Yep we will show
> >up with your equipment and *STILL* kick your ass." Also, I
> >have no doubt that Montoya is head and shoulders above
> >zanardi.
> >Hopefully this will cause some merging of the 2 leagues.
> >--
> >> --
> >> Rob Swindells
> >> [Rob Swindells Racing] http://swindells.8m.com
> >> "Add life to your days, not days to your life."
> >> "The greatest substitute for talent is hard work."
> >> "Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it."
> >> "I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."
Hear, hear. Though, to be blunt, as far as most Europeans are concerned
there's only one "Indycar" series anyway - CART.
--
David.
"After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll,
really."
(Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh)
> There will never be any hope of merging the 2 leagues as long as divisive
> opinions like these continue to fuel the split and drive the wedge even
> deeper.
> -- JB
(sorry John, cheap shot but I couldn't resist)
What I find funny is the IRL is supposed to be an American League. Well
why are guys Dare running or Slaizar and even Aire he also ran in the IRL.
Well I think it was a thinly disquised way to Tony to try to make more
money then just running one race.
I think someone who wrote to Racer put it best when the IRL says it gives
opportunity its the same opportunity it gave Sam Schmidt.
Dave
> > There will never be any hope of merging the 2 leagues as long as
divisive
> > opinions like these continue to fuel the split and drive the wedge even
> > deeper.
> > -- JB
Montoya and Ganassi showed the highest level of class and professionalism
today and won on a completely level playing field. There were several IRL
drivers on the lead lap, including Buddy Lazier, Eliseo Salazar, Jeff Ward,
and Eddie Cheever, who have all been described by various CART fans as
washed-up has-beens who couldn't make it in the "big leagues" of CART. The
fact that these IRL drivers were on the lead lap -- and that they all
managed to finish ahead of one Jimmy Vasser, Ganassi's other driver -- just
further validates the IRL formula. Lazier seriously challenged Montoya at
several points towards the end, but he couldn't sustain his charge. And,
even though he couldn't wrestle the lead from Montoya, Lazier's efforts are
still impressive when you consider that he overcame greater odds to finsh
second than Juan did with his first-place finish -- Juan started on the
front row in second place and finished first, moving up one position, while
Buddy moved up from a 16th-place starting spot on Row 6 to finish second.
Juan's performance was steller, but give Lazier his due, too (along with the
rest of the IRL participants on the lead lap)..
-- JB
>>There will never be any hope of merging the 2 leagues as long as divisive
>>opinions like these continue to fuel the split and drive the wedge even
>>deeper.
>Last I heard we were all entitled to hold opinions. I want the two
>groups to get back together because if they don't, both are doomed to
>disaster. But the message of this race is that, even after 6 years,
>IRL is a second-rate operation. Not an insult, just a fact. It's a
>real shame that the race which once was America's greatest race has
>been handed over to the minor league of open wheel racing. And Indy
>hasn't elevated the IRL, the IRL has diminished Indy...
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
> -- JB
> >> Very impressive run by Montoya. Although, he was only up against
> >> competition 70-75% of the level he's used to in CART...
> >Yeah, but it was the most exciting indy in quite a while. It was
> >quite a bit of pressure for the Target team. "Yep we will show
> >up with your equipment and *STILL* kick your ass." Also, I
> >have no doubt that Montoya is head and shoulders above
> >zanardi.
> >Hopefully this will cause some merging of the 2 leagues.
> >--
> >> --
> >> Rob Swindells
> >> [Rob Swindells Racing] http://swindells.8m.com
> >> "Add life to your days, not days to your life."
> >> "The greatest substitute for talent is hard work."
> >> "Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it."
> >> "I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."
--
Regards,
Bruce Kennewell,
Canberra, Australia.
---------------------------
> >There will never be any hope of merging the 2 leagues as long as divisive
> >opinions like these continue to fuel the split and drive the wedge even
> >deeper.
> Last I heard we were all entitled to hold opinions. I want the two
> groups to get back together because if they don't, both are doomed to
> disaster. But the message of this race is that, even after 6 years,
> IRL is a second-rate operation. Not an insult, just a fact. It's a
> real shame that the race which once was America's greatest race has
> been handed over to the minor league of open wheel racing. And Indy
> hasn't elevated the IRL, the IRL has diminished Indy...
This thing really makes me laugh. You will rarely hear a European bad
mouthing F3 or F3000 <G>
MS
> Devisive opinions like what? Clearly the IRL is the minor league of
> openwheel racing in america. It isn't really an opinion.
> --
> > -- JB
> > >> Very impressive run by Montoya. Although, he was only up against
> > >> competition 70-75% of the level he's used to in CART...
> > >Yeah, but it was the most exciting indy in quite a while. It was
> > >quite a bit of pressure for the Target team. "Yep we will show
> > >up with your equipment and *STILL* kick your ass." Also, I
> > >have no doubt that Montoya is head and shoulders above
> > >zanardi.
> > >Hopefully this will cause some merging of the 2 leagues.
> > >--
> > >> --
> > >> Rob Swindells
> > >> [Rob Swindells Racing] http://swindells.8m.com
> > >> "Add life to your days, not days to your life."
> > >> "The greatest substitute for talent is hard work."
> > >> "Doing it, is better than watching it, is better than simulating it."
> > >> "I may not be perfect, but parts of me are excellent."
Different camera angles for F3000 as to not rival the F1 coverage (and no
in-car)... how lame is that?
Jan.
=---
I may be overly naive/optimistic, but I've a feeling this is a very
short-lived situation, and we'll see the two leagues merging in the near
future (I hope!)
L.S.
Only in public, I imagine. Secretly I bet they're laughing very hard
that with minimal practice, they've breezed in and beat the Irrelevant
Racing League at its own biggest race.
Which isn't much of an achievement considering most of the field were
"IRL Drivers" :-)
No it doesn't. What it proves is the opposite. They were happily winning
in the IRL but then, just two CART stars come in and wipe the floor with
them. Imagine what would happen if they were surrounded by an entire
field of CART cars. They would indeed be nowhere in "The Big Leagues".
It would have been at least a Ganassi 1-3 had it not been for Vasser's
irregular fuel strategy, so the CART boys weren't far from cleaning up.
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Cheers!
Graeme Nash
