rec.autos.simulators

>>As we get closer to reality the margin between groundbreaking and just
>>another racing sim has blurred to the point of invisibility.  This is one
>>reason why there can never be another GPL no matter how great the current
>>sim is.

>     Yes, there are a lot of good, new things in rfactor though.

>     3 types of starts - rolling, standing and standing with warmup lap.
>     We finally have a dedicted road racer (not Nascar ovals) with proper,
> excellent multi - hip, hip hoo ***ing ray! (only took 7 years since GPL
> ffs)
>     Excellent graphics, changing light conditions that function properly,
> smoothly and look fantastic.
>     In 6-12 months we will probably have every track and series you can
> imagine!

>     For my money, if they get the results working properly and we get
> comprehensive stats then this is the best thing since................sliced
> bread........................and...............................GPL. Taking
> exponentiallity into account, it's probably as revolutionary as GPL was.

> ICR2 was released December '95 as I recall.

> Icr2 was released half a year after GP2.   While beloved, Icr2 had major
> flaws itself, no wheel-spin (!!!), laughable physics on ovals, AI that was
> below the one found in Gp2 (which was acceptable at its best).

> I'm not putting Gp2 on a pedestral, but to say that Gp2 was bad, well
> people just have short memories.

> > GP2 was out before ICR2, sonny.

> ICR2 was out in 1995.  GP2 came out in 96, no?

>>ICR2 was out in 1995.  GP2 came out in 96, no?

> http://www.gamestats.com/objects/003/003337/
> IndyCar Racing 2

> Release Date: 12/12/96  

> http://www.gamespot.com/pc/driving/grandprix2/review.html
> Grand Prix II

> Release Date: 06/30/1996

> Release Date: 12/12/96

>>>ICR2 was out in 1995.  GP2 came out in 96, no?

>> http://www.gamestats.com/objects/003/003337/
>> IndyCar Racing 2

>> Release Date: 12/12/96
>> http://www.gamespot.com/pc/driving/grandprix2/review.html
>> Grand Prix II

>> Release Date: 06/30/1996

> The original DOS only version of ICR2 was released in November/December
> 1995. I know cos I bought it then!

> From Alison Hine's site:

> "But oh, those graphics! While the original version of ICR2 was
> state-of-the-art in late 1995 when it was released, its graphics have
> since been eclipsed by GP2, which has much better texture mapping and a
> variety of visual improvements which lend greater realism. When GP2 came
> out in the summer of 96, this realism was so appealing that I stopped
> playing ICR2 altogether."

>>ICR2 was out in 1995.  GP2 came out in 96, no?

> http://www.gamestats.com/objects/003/003337/
> IndyCar Racing 2

> Release Date: 12/12/96  

>>>>ICR2 was out in 1995.  GP2 came out in 96, no?

>>>http://www.gamestats.com/objects/003/003337/
>>>IndyCar Racing 2

>>>Release Date: 12/12/96
>>>http://www.gamespot.com/pc/driving/grandprix2/review.html
>>>Grand Prix II

>>>Release Date: 06/30/1996

>>The original DOS only version of ICR2 was released in November/December
>>1995. I know cos I bought it then!

>>From Alison Hine's site:

>>"But oh, those graphics! While the original version of ICR2 was
>>state-of-the-art in late 1995 when it was released, its graphics have
>>since been eclipsed by GP2, which has much better texture mapping and a
>>variety of visual improvements which lend greater realism. When GP2 came
>>out in the summer of 96, this realism was so appealing that I stopped
>>playing ICR2 altogether."

>     And even with 6 months extra cpu evolution, at a time when cpu evolution
> rate was VERY high, GP2 still ran like a pig. GP2 was good for testing
> sessions and a glimpse of the future unless you liked being a slow mo league
> king with the keyboard. Just junk really.

>> http://www.gamestats.com/objects/003/003337/
>> IndyCar Racing 2

>> Release Date: 12/12/96

>That's when the reissue as CART Racing came out.  ICR2 was summer of 95.