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GPL online.... more polish needed?

ss

GPL online.... more polish needed?

by ss » Fri, 11 Jan 2002 18:26:49

I'm a relative GPL newbie trying to get up to speed track by track.  So far,
I've only been racing offline and I've yet to even run all the tracks.  On
the tracks I have practiced, though, (Watkins Glen, Monza, Rouen, Spa) I'm
to the point where I can beat the AI (in a field of 11 cars) more often than
not.  Mind you, that's in novice mode (eg very short races) with the damage
model set to 'none'.  I'd like to try some online races, but don't want to
race in a setting where I'll***anybody off when I inevitably drive into a
tree or blow an engine and cause a crash.  Can someone suggest a friendly
venue for relative newcomers to race F1 cars online while still getting to
know the game?  If I wait until I'm comfortable with all the tracks before
venturing online, I may never get there... but at the same time, I don't
want to be too big nuisance to those who have been racing these tracks for
years.  I know there is an F2 league that fits the bill, but I am enjoying
running F1 and want to keep up with it.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions,
Itazura

Pete

GPL online.... more polish needed?

by Pete » Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:09:40

If you can get pass turn one without crashing your doing a lot better than
most people :)

Just... hold your line, don't follow too close, don't ram, and, for the love
of god, don't drive backwards.

Apart from that, get in there and have fun.

Pete

Jones

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by Jones » Fri, 11 Jan 2002 19:43:41


I take it you know about VROC (http://www.racesimcentral.net/)?  You'll
find freindly people to race with, and how fast you are isn't really
important.  What is vital that you are at least aware of the racing line so
that you can safely move out of the way of faster drivers, or avoid the line
when you're rejoining the track after a spin ;-)

Have fun!

cyrille vanlerbergh

GPL online.... more polish needed?

by cyrille vanlerbergh » Fri, 11 Jan 2002 20:08:12

If you want clean online racing, but can't join a racing league, you can try
the ADC (Average drivers club) who regularly meet to race online.
The website is at http://www.racesimcentral.net/ in the *leagues* menu on the left.
As you can already beat the unmodified AI, you are very much fast enough to
go and race online, IMH. :-)
cheers,
Cyrille





> > I'm a relative GPL newbie trying to get up to speed track by track.  So
> far,
> > I've only been racing offline and I've yet to even run all the tracks.
On
> > the tracks I have practiced, though, (Watkins Glen, Monza, Rouen, Spa)
I'm
> > to the point where I can beat the AI (in a field of 11 cars) more often
> than
> > not.  Mind you, that's in novice mode (eg very short races) with the
> damage
> > model set to 'none'.  I'd like to try some online races, but don't want
to
> > race in a setting where I'll***anybody off when I inevitably drive
into
> a
> > tree or blow an engine and cause a crash.  Can someone suggest a
friendly
> > venue for relative newcomers to race F1 cars online while still getting
to
> > know the game?  If I wait until I'm comfortable with all the tracks
before
> > venturing online, I may never get there... but at the same time, I don't
> > want to be too big nuisance to those who have been racing these tracks
for
> > years.  I know there is an F2 league that fits the bill, but I am
enjoying
> > running F1 and want to keep up with it.

> > Thanks in advance for your suggestions,
> > Itazura

> I take it you know about VROC (http://www.racesimcentral.net/)?  You'll
> find freindly people to race with, and how fast you are isn't really
> important.  What is vital that you are at least aware of the racing line
so
> that you can safely move out of the way of faster drivers, or avoid the
line
> when you're rejoining the track after a spin ;-)

> Have fun!

Eldre

GPL online.... more polish needed?

by Eldre » Fri, 11 Jan 2002 22:53:07



>I'm a relative GPL newbie trying to get up to speed track by track.  So far,
>I've only been racing offline and I've yet to even run all the tracks.  On
>the tracks I have practiced, though, (Watkins Glen, Monza, Rouen, Spa) I'm
>to the point where I can beat the AI (in a field of 11 cars) more often than
>not.  Mind you, that's in novice mode (eg very short races) with the damage
>model set to 'none'.  I'd like to try some online races, but don't want to
>race in a setting where I'll***anybody off when I inevitably drive into a
>tree or blow an engine and cause a crash.  Can someone suggest a friendly
>venue for relative newcomers to race F1 cars online while still getting to
>know the game?  If I wait until I'm comfortable with all the tracks before
>venturing online, I may never get there... but at the same time, I don't
>want to be too big nuisance to those who have been racing these tracks for
>years.  I know there is an F2 league that fits the bill, but I am enjoying
>running F1 and want to keep up with it.

I occasionally run a server on VROC with the description "Newbies welcome!"
Feel free to join and have fun.

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.racesimcentral.net/~epickett
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Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:46:26

"EldredP"
  The trouble with a 'newbies' server is that experts tend to join and vulch
the rookies.
dave henrie

David Butter

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by David Butter » Fri, 11 Jan 2002 23:54:27


The most common type of race run in VROC is an "Intermediate Short",
with Advanced damage, so you might want to try a couple of those. Other
than the increased length (Monza is 11 laps), the main thing you'll
need to to careful of is over-revving - you might not get away with
speedshifting in an Int Short race as you generally can in a Novice
one.

Well, blowing an engine - unless you're being *really* stupid by
changing into 1st at 150mph - isn't going to be your fault, so you
dopn't need to worry about that. (Okay, I suppose you might argue that
bad setups could be a contributory factor, but let's not get too
involved here.) Driving into a tree shouldn't matter too much, either -
it's much better than driving into another car! In fact, given the
choice of the two, you should be prepared to deliberately drive off the
road, even at the cost of your race. (Not that this level of
sportsmanship is exactly common, though...!)

<snip>

95% of open VROC races are friendly to all - it might help if you put a
chat message in when you join explaining your situation, as many people
will help a newcomer. Most VROCcers are much more irritated with the
more experienced drivers who bite off more than they can chew by going
for impossible gaps etc. Eldred's servers (mentioned by him above) are
certainly recommended.

You've learnt four tracks well so far. A little bit of advice for each:

Monza: the first corner at Monza causes more trouble than anything else
put together, especially if there's a tight grid. Whatever you do, stay
on a straight line away from the start, and favour smoothness over
speed  - you might get passed by a couple of people, but you'll be
better equipped to avoid the (almost inevitable) pileup if you're fully
in control. If you're lucky, you'll be on the right of the grid, where
you'll have more room.

Watkins Glen - careful coming out of the pits in qualifying, as you're
almost immediately into the "fast lane". You might have to wait a while
for a gap in the traffic. There's a fair bit of spinning at this track,
so keep an eye on the grass verges everywhere.

Spa - Any circuit on which the first corner is Eau Rouge is going to be
a bit fraught away from the start. You'll need to use the "look
left/right" buttons a fair bit here, and stay totally focussed. Spatial
awareness is tricky in a game with little peripheral vision, but you
need it somehow!

Rouen - a lovely track, but a slippery one. It's very easy to slide off
the outside of the first downhill right-hander - but there's plenty of
run-off, so you should make it back on OK. And be *very* careful at the
hairpin - you may even have to come to a complete stop to avoid a rear-
end shunt into the car in front.

--
"After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Eldre

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by Eldre » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 06:34:48


writes:

Really?  I didn't know that...  Well, THAT sucks.  Why wouldn't the better
drivers want the competition of drivers with similar skill?  What
accomplishment is it ao beat someone who can't even put 3 clean laps together
at Monza?
<sigh>

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
GPLRank - under construction...

Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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Jonny Hodgso

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by Jonny Hodgso » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 03:07:41


> The most common type of race run in VROC is an "Intermediate Short",
> with Advanced damage, so you might want to try a couple of those. Other
> than the increased length (Monza is 11 laps), the main thing you'll
> need to to careful of is over-revving - you might not get away with
> speedshifting in an Int Short race as you generally can in a Novice
> one.

I've recently moved from Novice to Int Short offline AI races,
and I didn't *think* I was speedshifting - until my Eagle went
'pop' half-way through Silverstone :-(

For the following race, I made my shifts *really* deliberate,
staying at half throttle until well after the next gear comes
in.

To the OP: I don't call myself a 'newbie' on GPL, but I was
thrilled to come third against the AI recently so well done!

Jonny

Will DeRiver

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by Will DeRiver » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 06:43:02


I'd still rather race on a newbie server. That way when i take out a
vulcher, i have an excuse. lol.  =)
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Rob Adam

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by Rob Adam » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 06:44:36



I haven't done this on your server I don't think, but in the past when I was
looking for a fun race at Monza I'd pick a newbie-ish server so I didn't end
up "racing" a bunch of guys who qualify with 26's and 27's.

ss

GPL online.... more polish needed?

by ss » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:18:33

Thanks for those details, they do help.  I've switched to Intermediate short
mode for my offline practice and found that aside from sweatier palms, it
doesn't seem like too big a transition from novice mode (my wife would
disagree, though, as it has increased the length of time during which my
side of any conversation consists solely of 'shhhhh shhhh').  Now I will
have to figure out where in the world the 'look left', 'look right' buttons
are as I've never used them.

Itazura

Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:24:07

(sniip)
Now I will

 You don't want to...unless you are rejoining the track after spinning off.
Anyone who can afford the time to have the view swap 30 degrees left or
right isn't driving fast enough.
dave henrie


ss

GPL online.... more polish needed?

by ss » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 09:37:03

Thanks.... When I won my first 5-lap race at Spa (setting two personal best
lap times in the process!) I was so thrilled that I insisted that my wife
come in to read the newspaper page that pops up after the race.  She said
something like 'Ummm, that's very nice honey...' (you know, in the tone of a
mother to her 8 year old son who has just, for instance, proudly finished
making a house out of mud.....).  I'm just loving this game, so it's good
that ras is here to listen.   Itazura

David Butter

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by David Butter » Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:02:24


...which is why I only recommended they be used at the start. Once
you're *in* Eau Rouge, as you say there just ain't the time.

--
"After all, a mere thousand yards... such a harmless little knoll,
really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

The GPL Scrapyard: bits 'n' bobs at http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com


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