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Snak

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by Snak » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Wow, theres been a lot of disagreements over this one.
This game final or not runs smooth as silk on my system with everthing
maxing out, thats a pretty good start.
The game has been tested by members of the Arrows team who rate the physics
as "spot on " albeit being a bit generous with grip in wet weather
situations, So how many people can disagree with members of a F1 team ?,
please leave your names then explain how it is you know better than them
 cause I could do with a good laugh).
The graphics are not groundbreaking I would give them 7/10 ( but then some
would argue that the weather effects would add 1 more to that) they are
perfectly acceptable.
The A1, holy shit how good does it get, I don`t think much better in my
humble opinion.
Nice simple menu system. Really good loading times which I like a lot.
Hey I could go on all night, but since most people will have stopped reading
this as it hits the mark and probaly touches a nerve in some, I will round
off now.
When I started the game it took a while and some editing of the cards.txt
file to get it sweet, ( Oh and quite a while sorting my Wheel out aswell)
but then the fun began and yes I love the physics and A1 and Framerate the 3
things that make a sim playable so I am happy.
Well done Geoff, thanks for giving me the best F1 sim out to date.

Snake.

Jan Verschuere

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by Jan Verschuere » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I'll disagree with whoever I like my friend and I'm not afraid to go on
record as doing so.

Let's see one of those guys defend that "spot on" statement here. Then I'll
run one of their cars into the armco at 70mph and see if it survives without
a scratch. <g>

Jan.
=---

μartij

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by μartij » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

In the Dutch F1-race preview, they put people into a Hyper running F1-2000.
Tom Coronel, with Arrows F1-experience, went in, and commented "this is
just incredibly hard, its soo realistic! What a very very very good game,
incredibly fantastic" etc etc. Point is: they dont have a clue.

GraDe

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by GraDe » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00


<snip>

Take a trip over to RASF1..... just about everyone there does:-)

Mike Blackmor

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by Mike Blackmor » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

ROTFLMAO......

Jesus I hope MJF2000 never buys an F1 sim : )

Regards Mike




><snip>
>> So how many people can disagree with members of a F1 team?

>Take a trip over to RASF1..... just about everyone there does:-)

T. Wortm

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by T. Wortm » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00



Not I. But just to be clear....are you saying that, according to the
game testers from the Arrows team, that the car in GP3 has a bit more
grip than a real F1 car would have in wet weather?

I remember watching Senna from the in-car cam during a wet practice
session at Monoco, and the man scared the hell out of me. He truely
was a master in the rain.

Greg Cisk

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by Greg Cisk » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00


Because DUH... There are no G forces in PC racing sims. As
such how in the hell can they say that it "feels right". I say "feel
this" :-)

Every F1 game released recently has had real F1 teams doing
similar things giving similar praise.

Did you ever play GP2??? I heard the menu system was identical.

Cheers.

--


Mike Blackmor

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by Mike Blackmor » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

SPOT ON

I thinks it's ***y wonderful really playable the car feels so alive
it's twitchy and you get a real feeling of acceleration

As for the weather truly amazing, I was hotlapping around Silverstone
and it started raining on one side of the track and not the other
amazing ***y amazing. If it was a race I'd be thinking do I stop,
will it dry and is that a barrier I just hit.

It's fully met my expectations

My only gripe is I have a Saitek R4 wheel that has the padals as
buttons 5 and 6 GP3 seems to only recognise 4 hey ho....

Regards Mike



Snak

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by Snak » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Thanks for all the input regarding the "spot on " comment I made.
Would anyone like to comment on the other points I made in my post ,
positive or negative.
I think F1 2000 is a good attempt but unfortunately its badpoints outweigh
it`s good points in my humble opinion. I was one of the guys who posted that
I liked it when it first came out. My worry is, how are they going to make
it right without redoing a hell of a lot of it . Please, that product ( and
I own it myself and enjoy hotlapping on it, thats all it`s good for) was
nowhere near fit for release. Gp3 works and is value for money IMHO. With
regards to damage I have had a couple of whel losses so far, so there is
some there but without playing for afew fullraces etc.. I cannot futher
comment at the moment. This game must make some money so it will have to
appeal to more than just the ***. I like it super realistic but I also
enjoy playing, if I had a car which was as reliable as some of the F1 cars
in the real world I might only get 2 laps practice and out of the race on
first lap in a pile up maybe.
Hey Jan, maybe we will be able to edit the damage to make it more realistic
ourselves
who knows. Cut down on the caffeine :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

Snake.

Don Burnett

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by Don Burnett » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I'd love to compare with you, but it is not quite availabe in stores in the
U.S. right now.

--
Don Burnette
Dburn in N3 and Legends
ICQ# 74084566


N..

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by N.. » Sun, 23 Jul 2000 04:00:00


thus spoke:

And you believe everything you read? Novalogic has real pilots test
their ***flight-sims too and they say their sims are as real as it
gets blah, blah, blah. Anyone with $0.02 of logic knows this is BS.

--
Nos

Joona Vaini

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by Joona Vaini » Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:00:00


> The game has been tested by members of the Arrows team who rate the physics
> as "spot on " albeit being a bit generous with grip in wet weather
> situations, So how many people can disagree with members of a F1 team ?,
> please leave your names then explain how it is you know better than them
>  cause I could do with a good laugh).

I do not want to comment the physics in GP3 either way. Just wanted to
point out that F12000 has been done in cooperation with Benetton. With
similar blessings for the physics accuracy. Whatever the actual truth
is, that kind of "spot on" slogans are for sale and worth ***as
information. Unless heard from the team guys first-person, I guess :-)

Besides, I can disagree on a LOT of things with certain F1 teams.

-lark-

Joona Vaini

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by Joona Vaini » Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:00:00




> <snip>
> > So how many people can disagree with members of a F1 team?

> Take a trip over to RASF1..... just about everyone there does:-)

Well, actually most of the time Razzers disagree with FIA. The
disagreeing guy depending on whatever disqualification threat "they"
have cooked up in *** with (insert rival team here).

Except for that one Amitalian who disagrees with everything. Other than
Mickey doing pompity pom on the prancing pony.

-lark-

Jan Loebzie

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by Jan Loebzie » Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:00:00



The problem with real life experts is that the have no comparisation
as to what other games already have achieved and what a PC is
capable of.
It's been the same problem with lots of flight simulations who all
have one or two real life pilots taking a ride and saying "yeah,
that's pretty close" and so on. But as long as that pilot isn't a PC
gamer with some experience himself, such statements are not all
that valuable and relevant.

Blaze

m.seer

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by m.seer » Mon, 24 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I remember some years ago reading an article in Autosport in which John
Cleland and Tim Harvey reviewed the original TOCA 1. They remarked on how
realistically the cars handled and what a goob job Codemasters had done. I
bought the game on the strength of this.

Hehe. Turned out to be total arcade rubbish with steering that pointed the
car in the general direction of the turn.

MS



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