rec.autos.simulators

The Damage Model in NR2002 is canned big time.

I took a careful look at every Chevy in the RASCAR Daytona Night Race that
had rear-end damage.  Myself, Bama, and a few others.

The damage on each car was absolutely identical.  Right down to every bend,
crease, missing metal, etc...

This also explains why Bama and Me were running identical speeds, as was the
other cars with rear-only damage.

I'm sure they really don't have a choice but to do this as there would be
way too many different things to model/track, but that doesn't mean I have
to like it :)

I also still think that this game needs additive repairs, like in real life.
This "you get what you get on the first stop" nonsense really bugs me and
takes a lot out of the race for me.

-Larry

  Agreed, being able to do little bits at a time would/is a good thing.  I
always thought the replay view  was keyed off your damage, but not the
physics.  In the old days, when we raced TPTCC offline, we'd send in replays
for validation.  All the damage that Jan's ***ous AI applied to my poor
Stratus Super Touring car would disappear.   Similarly, if I lost a wheel,
during the race and watched the replay on MY machine without rebooting, then
the other damaged cars would also have a missing wheel.(N99 era)
  I haven't peeked much at the N2k2 replays, but I wonder how different it
is now.

It has a damage model ? :-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

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John

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-Larry

No simulation or game at this time can do real-time realistic damage
modeling.  You can't expect that in NR2002.

For a certain situation that implicated a car colliding with an object,
there is a calculation that brings on a certain level of damage, on a
certain place of the car.  Back in N1 there was perhaps what a dozen or so
situations, while now there are probably 100's or more of possible
situations.

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yeah i remember that, way back in N1, it was impossible to take any kind of
side impact in the "doors".... get yourself t-boned and you found the
expected damage magically transferred to the front or rear end!!

http://www.s-o-d.co.uk/bangertc.htm

cheers
John

Glad you mentioned this Larry. I hadn't noticed the quirk before. I know I got
tired of looking at the cage surrounding your fuel cell : )
Dan

NASCAR Heat had vertex damage like what you are talking about, but it took
forever to even load the race when it was turned on. NASCAR Thunder is
suppose to have a better vertex damage setup.

MadDAWG

-Larry

I am actually torn between this and the moronic AI as being the area
that needs the most improvement.  Another thread...

cheers,
Gerald

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