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N4 - GeForce 3 - P4 1.5 frame rates

El Mandait

N4 - GeForce 3 - P4 1.5 frame rates

by El Mandait » Wed, 27 Jun 2001 06:13:03

Hey there,

For those of you who might be interested here are some FPS numbers from N4
and my new system.

My system
Asus P4T Motherboard
P4 1.5 Ghz
Visiontek GeForce 3
512 RAMBUS

I am using the latest nVidia drivers.

N4 - 1024 x 768 x 32
All options on
All details full.
20 cars drawn ahead and 6 behind.
World detail full
Draw ahead distance - 75%
Mirror - 25%

Without any FSAA on I get 75 FPS 98% of the time. However, when in turn 4 of
a big track with a lot of cars around me it may briefly dip down to 50.
Another situation where the FPS drops of some is at the start of a race with
all the cars bunched up.

If I use 2x FSAA then its a solid 37 which may briefly dip to 25 in that
same graphically intensive instances mentioned above.
If I use nVidia's Quincunx FSAA its the same FPS as above but looks as good
as 4X. Looks amazing actually!
The FSAA really makes a massive difference in N4.

I have raced some big races online and found the FSAA not to be a problem
during those brief drops in FPS. In fact 25 FPS on my new system feels a
heck of a lot smoother than 25 FPS on  my old P2 400 with a GeForce 1.
Either way, the drop is so brief it not even noticeable if you are focussed
on the race.

If I was going to race some super serious competition I might turn the FSAA
to have max frame rates but so far it feels really smooth 98% of the time
and looks awesome.

I must say I am really blown away by N4. I was waiting until I got a GF3
before I bought it. such a vast improvement of the previous Papy Nascar
games. My hats off to the guys at Papyrus. Thanks for going with Open GL
guys, I am not a huge fan of D3D.

nVidia rules!!!

If you would like a specific benchmark to be made in N4 I would be happy to
get it for you.

Adios

Morris Jone

N4 - GeForce 3 - P4 1.5 frame rates

by Morris Jone » Wed, 27 Jun 2001 07:11:32

I wish I could say the same, I have had nothing but trouble since upgrading
from the GF2 Ultra, to the G3.  I can not use FSAA at all anymore and could

possible combo of setting and have finally stayed with 1600x1200 in opengl
with no fsaa. using 12.60 drivers, have tried all of them I think.  FPS is
around 30 most of the time with a full field  and will see 50 when they thin
out, but I really miss the FSAA, everything looks to blurry now, when I turn
it on.

El Mandait

N4 - GeForce 3 - P4 1.5 frame rates

by El Mandait » Wed, 27 Jun 2001 14:47:55

Hey dude,

When you say you can't run FSAA anymore why is that? Do you mean the option
is not available, the game crashes when you have it enabled, its just blurry
like you said or the frame rate goes to hell. Please specify.

I really don't know why you would be having this problem
but as a long shot suggestion, you could try doing a clean install of the
video drivers.

You would have to select a default display adapter driver then reboot. Once
you reboot, you have to do a file search for

nv*.*

Delete all the nvidia files that reside in the windows and windows/system
folders. Do not delete the any driver files you may have stored on your hard
drive elsewhere. Then go to the display properties and update the driver for
the display adapter. select your latest nVidia driver and when prompted,
reboot. This will ensure that you have not mixed any driver files of
previous versions with your current drivers. In the past this has cleared up
weird problems for me.

I am running N4 in openGL mode. It's definitely not blurry.

Good Luck!!


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