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Our current physics model is two-dimensional (well, 2.25 dimensional), so
there is no flipping. IndyCar Racing II continues with the two-dimensional
model, as will NASCAR Racing for Macintosh/Windows.

Rick Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II/NASCAR Racing for Macintosh/Windows
Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

Does this mean that there will be no curbs in ICR II?

Is 90% blind turns, ie concrete tunnels, on the non-oval tracks realistic??
Who can make a good implementation of Surfers Paradise without curbs?

More generally: If curbs aren't included in ICR II what then will truly
seperate ICR II from its predecessor apart from the AI and a SVGA mode?

Apart from the improved AI, will every other change be cosmetic?

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Roof Flaps.

Two-D is fine, but will the new versions be able to let you simulate
"turning your head."  Sometimes, when I'm really involved in trying to
catch the guys up front, I don't realize that someone has pulled
alongside.  It'll be cool if I could take a quick glance to my left side
before accidently ramming into them when entering a turn..

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I think that was meant to be a joke.

Kirk

Papyrus lagging beind Microprose for once, there will apparently be
curbs in F1GP II.  In fact, I read that when the car rides over the
curbs, the aerodynamic properties of the car changes.
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RR> That depends on what you mean by cosmetic. If breakapart cars
RR> are a cosmetic change, then, yes, I guess so. If the ability
RR> to run on platforms other than DOS is a cosmetic change, then
RR> yes, I guess so.

Does the breakapart cars have any influence on the handling of the
damaged car ?

And (if yes above) can you go to your pit, and f.ex. have your
nosecone replaced ?

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There will be no curbs in ICR II.

Apart from the improved AI, will every other change be cosmetic?
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That depends on what you mean by cosmetic. If breakapart cars are a
cosmetic change, then, yes, I guess so. If the ability to run on platforms
other than DOS is a cosmetic change, then yes, I guess so.

Rick Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II/NASCAR Racing for Macintosh/Windows
Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

IndyCars do not have roof flaps. (They don't even have much of a roof. :-)
And while the roof flaps have helped NASCARs significantly, there are
still times when they tumble. (Which race and driver was it this year who
tumbled side-over-side about 7 times? - I think it was Talladega and one
of the Labontes...)

Rick Genter
Technical Lead, IndyCar Racing II/NASCAR Racing for Macintosh/Windows
Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

Keep up the good work Rick!  BTW, what kind of release date on the Mac
version of NASCAR (or heck, is it out yet?)  I have some Mac Friends
I'd like to "get into this".  And, are the carsets and setup files
going to be compatible with the PC versions?

Go #6 Mark Martin and #16 Ted Musgrave - Jack Roush Racing!!
NASCAR Racing!!

http://innet.com/~sean/nascar/nascar.html <--NASCAR Racing Sim page

BTW, it was one of the Hendrick machines - the Budweiser #25 Ken
Schrader.  Incidently, his teammate just barely touched his car.
(Gordon)

Go #6 Mark Martin and #16 Ted Musgrave - Jack Roush Racing!!
NASCAR Racing!!

http://innet.com/~sean/nascar/nascar.html <--NASCAR Racing Sim page

|> True.  Indy cars. forgot about those.  Uh, they have really good
|> aerodynamic bodies that keep them on the ground - well, most of the
|> time.  Did you ever see that F1 race in Japan a few years ago when
|> Gerhard Berger I think it was, ran into somebody from behind, and his
|> whole car pitched STRAIGHT UP, then came back down... wow, that was
|> awesome!

Yes! And Christian Fittipaldi at Monza 1993, flipped his car 360 degrees,
crossed the start/finish line in mid-air, and landed on 4 wheels! Boy,
that was more awesome! And he was lucky, too!

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Winston Cup wise, I remember Mark Martin's back end lifting up
(Daytona?) and Swervin' went underneath him.  Like God took his hand
and lifted up Mark's car to let Ernie by...

Go #6 Mark Martin and #16 Ted Musgrave - Jack Roush Racing!!
NASCAR Racing!!

http://innet.com/~sean/nascar/nascar.html <--NASCAR Racing Sim page

How do you think I play "long jump"? :-)
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