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FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

rob

FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

by rob » Thu, 29 Oct 1998 04:00:00


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Are you a closet Mac user?  I think "insanely great" is a Steve Jobs thing.
Kinda like Gates with his "great software."

rob.

K.S. Br?nnic

FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

by K.S. Br?nnic » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00


>Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 and save several hundred dollars.

Thanks for the advice, but I decided not to go for the Celeron 300A because
the price was not that different (170 for the OEM with a fan vs 250 $ for
the retail 350) and I wanted to run at 100 mhz FSB. The ABIT BH6 MB can run
the 350 at 112 mhz FSB and I probably can get 392 mhz. I looked at the big
Celeron300A OC survey and although about 80 % succeded in reaching 450 mhz,
many had to increase the voltage and many had slight instabilities.

Regards K.S. Br?nnick

John

FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

by John » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Fine but the BH6 will run the Celeron at 100Mhz if you want it to.


>>Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 and save several hundred dollars.

>Thanks for the advice, but I decided not to go for the Celeron 300A because
>the price was not that different (170 for the OEM with a fan vs 250 $ for
>the retail 350) and I wanted to run at 100 mhz FSB. The ABIT BH6 MB can run
>the 350 at 112 mhz FSB and I probably can get 392 mhz. I looked at the big
>Celeron300A OC survey and although about 80 % succeded in reaching 450 mhz,
>many had to increase the voltage and many had slight instabilities.

>Regards K.S. Br?nnick

staime

FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

by staime » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Celeron 300a OEM's only $125.  PII 300 is about $200, and if you get the right
serial number, then you're virtually gaurenteed it will run 450.


> >Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 and save several hundred dollars.

> Thanks for the advice, but I decided not to go for the Celeron 300A because
> the price was not that different (170 for the OEM with a fan vs 250 $ for
> the retail 350) and I wanted to run at 100 mhz FSB. The ABIT BH6 MB can run
> the 350 at 112 mhz FSB and I probably can get 392 mhz. I looked at the big
> Celeron300A OC survey and although about 80 % succeded in reaching 450 mhz,
> many had to increase the voltage and many had slight instabilities.

> Regards K.S. Brnick

K.S. Br?nnic

FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

by K.S. Br?nnic » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00


>Celeron 300a OEM's only $125.  PII 300 is about $200, and if you get the
right
>serial number, then you're virtually gaurenteed it will run 450.

Unfortunately I live in Norway, where prices are a bit higher. I know it's
very likely a Celeron 300 A would reach 450, at least with increased
voltage. However, I would feel bad if it would not run at 450, as I then
would have to use either 66,75 or 82 mhz bus-speed instead. Increased
voltage at 450 mhz may work for a while, but electromigration might render
the CPU unusable at that speed after a while.

K.S. Br?nnick

doktor

FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

by doktor » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Exactly!! What you've just discovered is that "As Is", the gameport is a
pretty inefficient device for today's CPU-hungry games. "Polling the
gameport" means that the CPU has to check with the port to see if any
changes in state have occurred. None?... oh well, next time!.. Change...
ok.. time to do something about it. None?... None?.. None??...Change..
etc.etc.

That's why digital gameports such as the PDPI Lightning 4 can be the "cure"
to the problem, and reduce the "jitters" and have the potential to reduce
framerates by a fair percentage. The Digital Gamecards assume the
responsibility of the "Joysitck polling" on-board on their hardware.

"Using the Thrustmaster T2 steering wheel, in a full right turn, at 72
joystick polls per second, more than half the total available CPU time is
spent reading the standard gameport. Note that this leaves less than half of
the computer's time to run the game.

Polling the L4 at the rate of 72 times per second costs a barely perceptible
0.18% of the CPU's available time. Note that this beats the standard
gameport running the T2 steering wheel by roughly 320 times."

What this results in is more CPU availability = Smoother control / faster
framerates

If you have a lower-end system, you will see more of an increase with the L4
than if you had a P-450. However, even on the P-450, controller input will
appear smoother.

- Plus you can plug in as many as 4 controllers at the same time!!
- Note: "digital" joysticks are NOT compatible with Digital Gamecards.
- Note: the L4 is currently available ONLY as ISA-based card, so make sure
you have a free ISA-slot available.

I've put together a special deal for us GPL'ers - An INCREDIBLE price, much
lower than the one on PDPI's own website! Details are on my page - you will
need Special PASSWORDS which you'll find on my page in order to order.
.. and shipping is only $4 US for Continental N.America, and $15
International!

DoktorB
http://webhome.idirect.com/~drbryan/gpl
-- Exclusive offer: PDPI L4 Digital Gamecard
   ONLY $80.95 US with Passwords on my GPL page
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K.S. Br?nnic

FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

by K.S. Br?nnic » Sat, 31 Oct 1998 04:00:00




><snip>
>>GPL is an insanely great game
><snip>

>Are you a closet Mac user?  I think "insanely great" is a Steve Jobs thing.
>Kinda like Gates with his "great software."

LOL, I have been influenced by the dark force in comp.sys.mac.advocacy where
I argue with Mac users too much for my own good it seems :-).

Regards K.S. Br?nnick

Lutrel

FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

by Lutrel » Sun, 01 Nov 1998 04:00:00

 The Digital Gamecards assume the

Does it work  o.k. with a digital joystick like the MS Sidewinder Pro?
Will it replace that lame MS Controller setup menu with its own?
Lutrell :-)
DSR #74
http://www2.scca.com/amateur/club_racing/runoffs/photogal/dsr-74.jpg

doktor

FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

by doktor » Sun, 01 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Unfortunately, I DON'T believe it will. As I mentioned before, Digital
Joysticks aren't compatible with Digital Gamecards. Same thing would occur
if you tried using the Diamond Monster Sound (II?), I believe, as this
soundcard has a digital joystick port. (afaik).

I'm going to email pdpi to find out if you can use the card in "legacy"
mode - which would allow you to use the L4 as a "multi-controller" hub - I
think that's unfortunately the most you would get out of it with a Digital
controller. I'll let you know when I hear.

Sorry!

doktorB
http://webhome.idirect.com/~drbryan/gpl


>Does it work  o.k. with a digital joystick like the MS Sidewinder Pro?
>Will it replace that lame MS Controller setup menu with its own?

rdra..

FPS in GPL greatly affected by controller-type

by rdra.. » Mon, 02 Nov 1998 04:00:00


> Celeron 300a OEM's only $125.  PII 300 is about $200, and if you get the right
> serial number, then you're virtually gaurenteed it will run 450.



> > >Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 and save several hundred dollars.

> > Thanks for the advice, but I decided not to go for the Celeron 300A because
> > the price was not that different (170 for the OEM with a fan vs 250 $ for
> > the retail 350) and I wanted to run at 100 mhz FSB. The ABIT BH6 MB can run
> > the 350 at 112 mhz FSB and I probably can get 392 mhz. I looked at the big
> > Celeron300A OC survey and although about 80 % succeded in reaching 450 mhz,
> > many had to increase the voltage and many had slight instabilities.

> > Regards K.S. Br?nnick

What do u mean right serial number ??? how does that affect overclocking
??
rdracer

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