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n2+cyrix+T2=crap

Gene Cla

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by Gene Cla » Thu, 26 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I bought a new mb  with a Cyrix 166+ last summer in preperation for n2. Than i
bought the reactor vid card for the same reason. Indy safe worked but indyfast
was a no go. I tried all the usual boot disk dmadiag.exe and it always gave me
an exception code error. I was worried about n2 working in dma mode but when i
finaly got the sim it did work in dma mode but as it states in the readme file
the T2 does not work well with the cyrix. The car would jerk the the left when
raceing but worked good in svga mode. So why did i spend the money on a 3d
card and not be able to use it in 3d mode!!!!

I traded the cyrix cpu in and a few bucks to boot for a pentium 166 chip and
n2 in dma mode workes great!!! Indyfast even works now!!!

                                later gwc

August Branches

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by August Branches » Thu, 26 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Another happy Cyrix customer.  And people wonder why I am so critical of
the Cyrix chips....Go Figure.

------
August Branchesi
Systems Programmer / Apex Mrsketing Group
http://members.visi.net/~muja



Chuck Andersen X33

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by Chuck Andersen X33 » Fri, 27 Dec 1996 04:00:00

: Another happy Cyrix customer.  And people wonder why I am so critical of
: the Cyrix chips....Go Figure.
: ------
: August Branchesi

I have N2/ICR2/GP2/etc, Cyrix p166+, Asus T2P4, Herc Stingray 64/video,
T1, and am very happy..."another happy Cyrix customer", go figure.

Chappi

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by Chappi » Fri, 27 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I to have a Cyrix 150+, N2, ICR2, T2 Wheel and have no problems at all.
Steering is a little more sensitive in N2 compared to past sims, but no
problems in traffic. I will be installing a Reactor card in a day or two
and expect a little more work in the compatibility area, but we will see.

I believe that most peoples problems are not in the hardware they
physically have but in how they set it up and configure win95 to talk to
it. To many times I see "I can't get this ***to work!" or "I have the
same setup and mine works fine!" The biggest variable then would more than
likely be the software setup. IMHO. Keep fiddling with it and learn!

Steve




> : Another happy Cyrix customer.  And people wonder why I am so critical
of
> : the Cyrix chips....Go Figure.
> : ------
> : August Branchesi

> I have N2/ICR2/GP2/etc, Cyrix p166+, Asus T2P4, Herc Stingray 64/video,
> T1, and am very happy..."another happy Cyrix customer", go figure.

Patrick Gilmor

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by Patrick Gilmor » Fri, 27 Dec 1996 04:00:00




> > : Another happy Cyrix customer.  And people wonder why I am so critical
> of
> > : the Cyrix chips....Go Figure.
> > : ------
> > : August Branchesi

> > I have N2/ICR2/GP2/etc, Cyrix p166+, Asus T2P4, Herc Stingray 64/video,
> > T1, and am very happy..."another happy Cyrix customer", go figure.

As I understand it the Reactor card (and presumably any other verite
based cards) causes erratic control responses (with joystick/wheels)
when ran in the "best" mode, i.e. DMA mode. For myself (a cyrix &
rendition owner) the game runs fine (abiet with a lousy frame rate) in
standard mode and in the basic enhanced mode. As is mentioned in the
readme, while using the dma mode the car gets erratic control inputs and
seems to be very hard to steer at slow speeds (its like the car is
getting hit with extreme sudden cross wind gusts or something like that
- it will do it even when you are not touching the controller). Even
though the frame rate is fantastic, many tracks are undrivable due to
this (MIS and Tally because its very hard to hold the car in a steady
draft and the road courses - in the slow corners the car will not steer
at all). This is not a Win95 compatabiltiy problem - it does this whilst
run in dos as well.
If you plan to stick with a Cyrix processor, my advice would be to stay
away from the verite cards since you are likely to experience the same
and the basic enhanced mode isn't good enough to justify the cost.
Michael A. Pack

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by Michael A. Pack » Fri, 27 Dec 1996 04:00:00



: : Another happy Cyrix customer.  And people wonder why I am so critical of
: : the Cyrix chips....Go Figure.
: : ------
: : August Branchesi
:
: I have N2/ICR2/GP2/etc, Cyrix p166+, Asus T2P4, Herc Stingray 64/video,
: T1, and am very happy..."another happy Cyrix customer", go figure.

i must agree.....i've got n2 on my cyrix 166+ and have had no
problems...and even get better speed than my friends PENTIUM 166..go
figure (and had extra money to buy some more games ...LOL)

pac
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bru..

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by bru.. » Fri, 27 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I have a Cyrix 6x86 166 and have a Reactor on the way.  Is anyone using
this combination without a problem???  Does everyone with this combo
have a problem in rendition mode?  Thanks

James Grayso

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by James Grayso » Sat, 28 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I have a Cyrix/Reactor setup and everything works and looks great with one
exception... the joystick is real jerky (read: unusable) in renddma.
Keyboard controls work great (as great as they can anyway) in renddma and
it looks AWESOME! Frame rate is outstanding - all on with asphalt on auto
and min frame rate set to 27 and it stays on at all times (Dega with full
field). As soon as we get the Rendition-Cyrix joystick problem solved
(anyone out there with ideas/knowledge on the situation?) it will be
perfect! BTW - N2rend looks as good but frame rate takes a big hit - lots
of stutters and warps - but the joystick works fine with it - go figure!
And regular N2 works fine - good frame rate and joystick OK.

Here's the rest of my system info
Cyrix P166+ (not overclocked......yet!)
Shuttle HOT 553 w/512k PB Cache and 32 MB RAM (latest BIOS flashed)
Reactor 3D
SoundBlaster 16 (Game port physically disabled by jumper)
CH Products Gamecard 3 Automatic
Extreme Competition Controls Driving System (1st generation)
Pioneer 12x CD-ROM (EIDE)
Western Digital 3.1 Gig HDD (EIDE - 4 Partitions)

Jim Grayson
Air Traffic Control Specialist - Automation - Memphis ARTCC


antrace

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by antrace » Sat, 28 Dec 1996 04:00:00

        I Have a new MB and a cyrix p166+, along with a new screamin 3d card.
The dma tests all crash with code op errors. ICR2 will not run in
indyfast but will run indysafe. I have had N2 run in renddma but the car
is so twithcy it isn't worth it. Can this be beat best with a new wheel/
pedal set or should I take the cyrix chip back and get the pentium?

Peggy Rutledg

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by Peggy Rutledg » Sat, 28 Dec 1996 04:00:00

That is what I did....take out the Cyrix and put a Pentium in. Steering
now smooth as silk.

Ron

Jeff Vince

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by Jeff Vince » Sun, 29 Dec 1996 04:00:00


   Papyrus is aware of it (it's in the N2 readme).  The question is if
fixing it is a high enough priority.  For your own sake, *all* of you
Cyrix users out there should make your problem known directly to
Papyrus (not just here on RAS).  No need to get militant about it, but
just so they know how many Cyrix users out there who have the problem.

   From an uneffected but sympathetic new Pentium user who passed on
the Cyrix chip...


Pick one or more: Model Rockets (competition-NERCB) / PCs (even Atari!) /
Papyrus ICR-ICR2-NCR / Who needs a life when you have multiple non-lives?

JD

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by JD » Tue, 31 Dec 1996 04:00:00

I have that same problem but my wheel is uncontrollable in RendDma.  I'm
running off my sound card, would a game card help????

James Grayso

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by James Grayso » Tue, 31 Dec 1996 04:00:00

Depends. If you are using an Intel processor, probably. If you are using a
Cyrix (like me), then it won't. There is a note in the readme file about
this. Hopefully, either Sierra or Rendition is working on this although no
one from those companies have said anything here.

--
Jim Grayson
Air Traffic Control Specialist - Automation - Memphis ARTCC


dhen..

n2+cyrix+T2=crap

by dhen.. » Wed, 01 Jan 1997 04:00:00


is where the conflict seems to be creeping in.
  I'm using a Cyrix 586-120 and in VGA the T2 drives well, but in SVGA,
there is quite a bit of wobbly driving.
Dave Henrie


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