rec.autos.simulators

by **artilit** » Thu, 09 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Hello, my name is Andries and a few months ago I both F1RS and started
to drive
with my joystick, the f1rs was great but the steering sucks.

I read about a steering wheel that would give you the feeling of driving
a race car.
I followed the progress and the moment the FORCE FEEDBACK STEERING WHEEL

of Platinum sound was in the stores I went and bought it.

Let me tel everyone, the wheel gives a whole new dimension to the word
simulation.
It lets you steer an feel the force of a f1 race car. It acts and reacts
on the things that
happen in the game.
The wheel and especially the pedals are of super quality. The wheel can
be mounted
onto you desk.

Forget all the rest of steering wheel. it is the best

Andries.

by **Paul Carro** » Thu, 09 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Hi Andries,
I'm glad your happy with the new wheel.I can't decide between the
Performer and the Actlabs Force RS (or maybe wait for the Microsoft
one).Does anyone have any suggestions about this?When will USB force
feedback wheels arrive?

What effects do you get through the Force Feedback.

Jolts when hitting other cars?
Bumping kerbs?
Varying resistance from tyres from cold to hot?
Loading of steering from understeer?
Progressive "looseness" toward breakaway?

by **Pat Dotso** » Thu, 09 Jul 1998 04:00:00

> Hi Andries,
> I'm glad your happy with the new wheel.I can't decide between the
> Performer and the Actlabs Force RS (or maybe wait for the Microsoft
> one).Does anyone have any suggestions about this?When will USB force
> feedback wheels arrive?

If you buy the ACT Labs Force RS wheel, you will be able to
upgrade it later with a USB cartridge. The USB cartridge
is due to be available around Christmas time. That's one
of the neat things about the ACT Labs RS wheels - you can
get different cartridges and use the same wheel with a
PC or with console systems.

--
Pat Dotson
IMPACT Motorsports

by **ymenar** » Thu, 09 Jul 1998 04:00:00

artilite wrote

Non-realisticaly...

Wow...

Ya give me a TSW/TSW2/ECCI/Hyperstimulator anytime instead of that ***
Per4mer wheel. Sorry but FF is not enough mature at this moment IMHO. Sure
it's a start but not even enough for a 200$ worth wheel.

Oh and Im sorry but the Per4mer FF wheel's architecture is very badly done.
Cheap plastic part, not all the unit equal in quality, etc.. (a.k.a.
Thrustmaster in 10x worse). I just wanted to mention you this. Before
telling how great the actual FF wheels are, just think that this is just the
_start_ , and it's pretty madly done at the moment. With time, 1000$ and +
wheels with FF will appear on the market, and you will understand the
difference between 200$ and 1000$ FF wheels ;)

my little 2 CAN not worth much these days...

- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)
- Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
- Member of the r.a.s. Ego-maniac club
- Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking)
- Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)
- "People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

by **Nathan Wo** » Fri, 10 Jul 1998 04:00:00

What do people do when they can't afford $1000?
Maybe all they wanna spend is $200 in which case, this Per4mer wheel
does what it needs to do and fulfils his requirements.

If I wanted the ultimate wheel, I'd buy some Momo/Sparco/Speedline
Hyperstimulator with drink bottle, wings yadda yadda yadda, but the
costs are far too high, so I'm happy with my Gp1 for now.

Mine is worse, it's in Australian dollars.....
--
Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors
- Super Touring - Alfa Romeo -

- V8Supercars - CART -

by **Jeff Salzma** » Fri, 10 Jul 1998 04:00:00

On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 14:01:20 -0500, Pat Dotson

>If you buy the ACT Labs Force RS wheel, you will be able to
>upgrade it later with a USB cartridge. The USB cartridge
>is due to be available around Christmas time. That's one
>of the neat things about the ACT Labs RS wheels - you can
>get different cartridges and use the same wheel with a
>PC or with console systems.

No, one of the neat things about the Force RS- the neatest thing is
that it's almost 6 months late, and nobody seems to know why....

by **Pat Dotso** » Fri, 10 Jul 1998 04:00:00

> >If you buy the ACT Labs Force RS wheel, you will be able to
> >upgrade it later with a USB cartridge. The USB cartridge
> >is due to be available around Christmas time. That's one
> >of the neat things about the ACT Labs RS wheels - you can
> >get different cartridges and use the same wheel with a
> >PC or with console systems.

> No, one of the neat things about the Force RS- the neatest thing is
> that it's almost 6 months late, and nobody seems to know why....

My understanding is that the "why" part involves Atari, who
came out with a Force Feedback driving simulator for
arcades. There were some licensing or patent issues
involved that have only recently been resolved. They are
supposed to be shipping now, but I will check to see if
that is true or not. Did you already pay for one or
something?

--
Pat Dotson
IMPACT Motorsports

by **Paul Carro** » Fri, 10 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Thanks for the response Pat,I think I will get this one.

On Wed, 08 Jul 1998 14:01:20 -0500, Pat Dotson

>If you buy the ACT Labs Force RS wheel, you will be able to
>upgrade it later with a USB cartridge. The USB cartridge
>is due to be available around Christmas time. That's one
>of the neat things about the ACT Labs RS wheels - you can
>get different cartridges and use the same wheel with a
>PC or with console systems.

>--
>Pat Dotson
>IMPACT Motorsports

by **Micheal Smi** » Sat, 11 Jul 1998 04:00:00

>Thanks for the response Pat,I think I will get this one.

Paul, would you do us a favour and post your thoughts once you've had
it a while? Thanks,

Mike

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