I was looking at the F1GP Hall of Fame qualifying lap times. I noticed
that i am almost 10sec slower than most of the records. I use the same
car setups as the Hall of Famers, and i am running at the Ace level.
What do i have to do to shave at least 5sec off my times? Is there a
trick that i'm not doing? Myabe i don't brake late enough. But as far
as i can tell, braking any later usually puts me in the grass. What am i
missing here?
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Dave
What controller are u using {keyboard is particularly shite} use all
the kerbs etc and practise practise etc...........................
GAUNTLET
In some courses, I managed to get a time that is about 2-3 second off the best
time. I was amased after I watched the downloaded replay file by the way how
they drive the car. But they use wheel, I use keyboard!
I can tell you one thing for sure, if you don't have a wheel, you
will not get the final 2-3 seconds. If you are 5 sec or more off the best time,
you just have to pratice harder.
Chris
=> I was looking at the F1GP Hall of Fame qualifying lap times. I noticed
=> that i am almost 10sec slower than most of the records. I use the same
=> car setups as the Hall of Famers, and i am running at the Ace level.
=> What do i have to do to shave at least 5sec off my times? Is there a
=> trick that i'm not doing? Myabe i don't brake late enough. But as far
=> as i can tell, braking any later usually puts me in the grass. What am i
=> missing here?
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=> Dave
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Afraid not. I think you will find that the top times on F1GP are set
using a keyboard. But I do agree that some of the times look unbeatable. About
a year ago I held the best time for Siverstone, now people have gone a second
quicker than this. I don't know how. I guess they are just very good. However -
Can a fast computer influence the game's timing? When I switched from a DX2/66
to a P133 the average lap times in a race situation seemed to fall. Anyone got
any concrete answer?
: What controller are u using {keyboard is particularly shite} use all
: the kerbs etc and practise practise etc...........................
: GAUNTLET
I am using the Gravis Gamepad. I think i found out what's slowing me
down. All the Hall of Famers run without traction control. They also
use the keyboard which i'm not willing to do. I've tried running without
traction control but the car becomes a real handful...sliding everywhere
and all sorts of wheelspin. I don't see how the tires would last at
all. What type of driving style are the guys using? It try to be
smooth, and not get into any "power drifting"....but maybe that's what
needs to be done?
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Dave
Hiya m8
I use a Logic 3 freewheel and NO traction control. Without Traction I can
beat my previous records by over 2 seconds!!!!!
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> I was looking at the F1GP Hall of Fame qualifying lap times. I noticed
> that i am almost 10sec slower than most of the records. I use the same
> car setups as the Hall of Famers, and i am running at the Ace level.
> What do i have to do to shave at least 5sec off my times? Is there a
> trick that i'm not doing? Myabe i don't brake late enough. But as far
> as i can tell, braking any later usually puts me in the grass. What am i
> missing here?
> DaveHi Dave,
I've been playing this for years, and I'm usually about 5s off
the fastest lap times except for Portugal(Estoril) and San Marino(Monza)
which either means that with practice you will know the circuit by
heart and you'll be able take different approaches into corners which
you might not have thought of before, or that it is impossible for a
normal person to get those times (not superlicense material snif).
I've been improving a lot since I've been analysing my laps using
the very excellent GPAnalyser by (... oophs forgot, sorry!). This way you
can usually tell if you are breaking too late or too early, if you are
breaking too hard and loosing too much speed around the corners (fastest
way around a corner is not always the best if you know what I mean,
sometimes getting the best exit speed is more important).
Once you have all this info, you still have to put it all
together in one lap, which is the hardest thing to do (I've heard that
some people keep saving their lap after every corner just to get the
perfect lap).
I've generally improved by 1 or 2s on my previous best times
by using this method, but I'm still a long (few seconds)way away from
those times...
Bruno
As for driving style, yes, you need to be very aggressive. A few
power slides are definitely required, but more important is how you
brake for slower corners - you have to get very deep in and use a
heavy rear bias to "throw" the car into the corner, and possibly some
"sawing at the wheel" as you exit to straighten up properly and make
the tires grip again.
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>: What controller are u using {keyboard is particularly shite} use all
>: the kerbs etc and practise practise etc...........................
>traction control but the car becomes a real handful...sliding everywhere
>and all sorts of wheelspin. I don't see how the tires would last at
>all. What type of driving style are the guys using? It try to be
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<A HREF="http://dutian.twi.tudelft.nl/~smit/sdihome.html">WWW</A>
Can you tell me what steering control do the top guy use?
According to the replay, they must be using wheel. I personally
believe keyboard cannot achieve the top time. Not even near the top time.
Regards
Chris
=> Well you don't need to worry about tires too much since you are only driving
=> one lap in qualifying, but by the end of that lap yeah the tires are stuffed.
=>
=> :)
=>
=> I'd suggest to everybody wanting to improve their times to visit the homepage
=>
=> of Ivanhoe Vasiljevich, he is the HOF champion at a number of tracks and even
=>
=> better, he writes track guides! :) He also has replays that you can
=> download,
=> and then you can see how these guys do it. The URL is
=> http://stud1.tuwien.ac.at/~e8925403/f1gp.htm. Also, Dave Gymer has GPPerf
=> data logs of some HOF laps, they are a bit outdated but are still
=> blisteringly
=> fast. His URL is http://www.gamesdomain.com/~dgymer
=>
=> Hope this helps someone somewhere. :)
=>
=> Regards,
=> Bruce Werdschinski
Virtually all the top times are set using the keyboard. I don't know
how you reached your conclusion from the replays but examinig the .prf
files (from PPerf) in GPAnalyser will tell a different story.
Actually it's http://www.gamesdomain.com/dgymer/ (or ".com"->".co.uk"
in the UK, or ".com"->".ru" in Russia). Also by FTP:
ftp.gamesdomain.co.uk in /pub/users/dgymer/f1gp/prf/
All accessible from my home page (below).
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It's amazing how people can be so convinced about something without having the
required knowledge.....
The fact is that ALL fastest times are achieved by using the keyboard (with
traction help turned off)!
"Gravity doesn't exist; the Earth sucks!"
> >In some courses, I managed to get a time that is about 2-3 second off the best
> >time. I was amased after I watched the downloaded replay file by the way how
> >they drive the car. But they use wheel, I use keyboard!
> >I can tell you one thing for sure, if you don't have a wheel, you
> >will not get the final 2-3 seconds. If you are 5 sec or more off the best time,
> >you just have to pratice harder.
> >Chris
> It's amazing how people can be so convinced about something without having the
> required knowledge.....
> The fact is that ALL fastest times are achieved by using the keyboard (with
> traction help turned off)!
> "Gravity doesn't exist; the Earth sucks!"
