You're cranky. <g>
Jan.
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I wouldnt mind going back to single file restarts myself. It just makes
it *** for the top 2-5 when guys are ducking/darting for spots at the
restart. Today clearly demonstrates this as we had somewhere near 5
cautions on restart laps..
Congrats Tim White. the dominator!!
> Just one of those days Fred.. Things just never really
> settled down and it's a rough track for passing. I
> wasnt very lucky either but managed to hang in there,
> thanks in large part due to papy's dmg model :-)
> I wouldnt mind going back to single file restarts myself.
> It just makes it *** for the top 2-5 when guys are
> ducking/darting for spots at the restart. Today clearly
> demonstrates this as we had somewhere near 5 cautions on
> restart laps..
> Congrats Tim White. the dominator!!
Disagree on the restart theory... I think lead lap cars need to show more
solidarity and, instead of trying to capitalize on lap cars mixing it with
the lead lap cars, try to keep the lap cars on the bottom until they're a)
shuffled back sufficiently not to interfere with, say, the top6 and b) the
field has settled enough for them to merge safely. Seeing the flag in Nascar
races is all about driving with your brain and showing some give and take
among the drivers. If it backfires in one race, there's always the
opportunity to keep that in mind in future. What comes around, goes around.
We understood eachother well (I think) this time. Larry didn't give me a
hard time at a track he happens to be uncomfortable at... I'm sure he now
expects the same of me.
Jan.
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>Just one of those days Fred.. Things just never really settled down and
>it's a rough track for passing. I wasnt very lucky either but managed
>to hang in there, thanks in large part due to papy's dmg model :-)
>I wouldnt mind going back to single file restarts myself. It just makes
>it *** for the top 2-5 when guys are ducking/darting for spots at the
>restart. Today clearly demonstrates this as we had somewhere near 5
>cautions on restart laps..
>Congrats Tim White. the dominator!!
My apologies to John Simmons and whoever else I wrecked when I slammed
on the brakes when the caution came out. Tim was trying to be a nice
guy and give a lap back and by the time I realized what he was doing I
had to swerve to avoid him and then I tried NOT to gain a "cheap
position" and also give a lap back by slowing abuptly and ended up
causing a big mess. Anyway, not one of my better days. Congrats to
Tim... some day I'm gonna figure out how to beat this guy... I may
just have to punt him on the last lap or something. :)
Brian Oster
>Just one of those days Fred.. Things just never really settled down and
>it's a rough track for passing. I wasnt very lucky either but managed
>to hang in there, thanks in large part due to papy's dmg model :-)
>I wouldnt mind going back to single file restarts myself. It just makes
>it *** for the top 2-5 when guys are ducking/darting for spots at the
>restart. Today clearly demonstrates this as we had somewhere near 5
>cautions on restart laps..
>Congrats Tim White. the dominator!!
My apologies to John Simmons and whoever else I wrecked when I slammed
on the brakes when the caution came out. Tim was trying to be a nice
guy and give a lap back and by the time I realized what he was doing I
had to swerve to avoid him and then I tried NOT to gain a "cheap
position" and also give a lap back by slowing abuptly and ended up
causing a big mess. Anyway, not one of my better days. Congrats to
Tim... some day I'm gonna figure out how to beat this guy... I may
just have to punt him on the last lap or something. :)
Brian Oster
Brian Oster
Here's a reason to have double file restarts ... well two I can think of...
When your able to get back on the lead lap under caution where you can then pit and have at least fresher tires than the leaders (if they don't pit) is just about the best feeling next to winning a race. I honestly do not understand why anyone would continue to race in any form if they were never able to get a lap back once they're down.
And, most of us are here to learn. And learning track and situational awareness is in my opinion one of the most important aspects.
Since we don't keep score, like a regular league, this is about the only place I know of that anyone can do that.
I'd hate to see that go away.
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Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com
I wouldnt mind going back to single file restarts myself. It just makes
it *** for the top 2-5 when guys are ducking/darting for spots at the
restart. Today clearly demonstrates this as we had somewhere near 5
cautions on restart laps..
NH is only a mile track... That would pretty much have put him on the backstretch :)
For the record, John was nowhere near half a lap back. He was right behind me and I was almost right behind you. When I so parked the car in turn 4 to give him ample room I thought for sure you'd see it on your F2 screen or in your mirror and back off.
So to be fair, it was me who made the 'mean' comment your referring to not John, sorry. You just caught me by surprise which is my excuse for the comment :)
But I did try to make it up by trying to give the next caution back to John by pretty much taking out the whole field so don't feel too bad for my lack of track awareness.
:)
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Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com
Well during the race i got wrecked 2 times, and mr. Simmons yells at me for
telling people not to slam on the brakes after a yellow flag. And I get
criticized for not letting cars have their lap back even though they are
half a mile behind me. What the heck is going on today???
NH is only a mile track... That would pretty much have put him on the
backstretch :)
For the record, John was nowhere near half a lap back. He was right behind
me and I was almost right behind you. When I so parked the car in turn 4 to
give him ample room I thought for sure you'd see it on your F2 screen or in
your mirror and back off.
So to be fair, it was me who made the 'mean' comment your referring to not
John, sorry. You just caught me by surprise which is my excuse for the
comment :)
But I did try to make it up by trying to give the next caution back to John
by pretty much taking out the whole field so don't feel too bad for my lack
of track awareness.
:)
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Tim White
www.intracmotorsports.com
Well during the race i got wrecked 2 times, and mr. Simmons yells at me for
telling people not to slam on the brakes after a yellow flag. And I get
criticized for not letting cars have their lap back even though they are
half a mile behind me. What the heck is going on today???
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Tim, I'm afraid I have to take credit for the last one. You did the
right thing by slowing, if I was in the same position I would have
done the same thing. If I would have been paying attention, I would
have lifted the same time you did and not stopped at the s/f line in
the middlfe of the track and blocked the entire track. I race with
the F2 screen on all the time and usually I always have situation
awareness at all times, but that caution caught me off guard. You
were pretty close to the s/f line when the caution came out, but after
I reviewed the replay, John could have safetly made up his lap if I
hadn't blown it. My bad.
Brian Oster
Brian Oster
>NH is only a mile track... That would pretty much have put him on the
>backstretch :)
>For the record, John was nowhere near half a lap back. He was right behind
>me and I was almost right behind you. When I so parked the car in turn 4 to
>give him ample room I thought for sure you'd see it on your F2 screen or in
>your mirror and back off.
>So to be fair, it was me who made the 'mean' comment your referring to not
>John, sorry. You just caught me by surprise which is my excuse for the
>comment :)
>But I did try to make it up by trying to give the next caution back to John
>by pretty much taking out the whole field so don't feel too bad for my lack
>of track awareness.
>:)
Agreed. At bristol I got a couple of laps down and I easily could
have pitted and raced my way back on to the lead lap early in the
race. With single file I spent the entire race trying to get back on
the lead lap. Even though we had problems this week double file
definitely needs to stay. With double file you still have hope if you
go down a lap due to a bf or something.
Brian Oster
