rec.autos.simulators

> Well during the race i got wrecked 2 times, and mr. Simmons yells at me
> for telling people not to slam on the brakes after a yellow flag. And I
> get criticized for not letting cars have their lap back even though they
> are half a mile behind me. What the heck is going on today???

>>> Well during the race i got wrecked 2 times, and mr. Simmons yells at me
>>> for telling people not to slam on the brakes after a yellow flag. And I
>>> get criticized for not letting cars have their lap back even though they
>>> are half a mile behind me. What the heck is going on today???

>>Just one of those days Fred..  Things just never really settled down and
>>it's a rough track for passing.  I wasnt very lucky either but managed
>>to hang in there, thanks in large part due to papy's dmg model :-)

>>I wouldnt mind going back to single file restarts myself.  It just makes
>>it *** for the top 2-5 when guys are ducking/darting for spots at the
>>restart.  Today clearly demonstrates this as we had somewhere near 5
>>cautions on restart laps..

>>Congrats Tim White. the dominator!!

> I disagree with the single file thing.  

>Ditto.  The lap cars problem was that the new guy wasn't proceeding briskly
>enough off the line and was really causing a mess with lapped cars that
>were much faster that had the bad luck of being behind him - the one
>instance that really sticks out is the restart where mack was followed by
>dave and then myself, and Dave had to check-up to keep from punting mack,
>and I had to check-up to keep from punting Dave (but that did not succeed).  
>It didn't help either that cars on the lead lap were forcing a THREE-WIDE
>situation through turn 1 ( Brian :) ).

> "Mitch_A" wrote...

> > > <snip>

> > Just one of those days Fred..  Things just never really
> > settled down and it's a rough track for passing.  I
> > wasnt very lucky either but managed to hang in there,
> > thanks in large part due to papy's dmg model :-)

> > I wouldnt mind going back to single file restarts myself.
> > It just makes it *** for the top 2-5 when guys are
> > ducking/darting for spots at the restart.  Today clearly
> > demonstrates this as we had somewhere near 5 cautions on
> > restart laps..

> > Congrats Tim White. the dominator!!

> Tim surely was the man to beat today... kudos.

> Disagree on the restart theory... I think lead lap cars need to show more
> solidarity and, instead of trying to capitalize on lap cars mixing it with
> the lead lap cars, try to keep the lap cars on the bottom until they're a)
> shuffled back sufficiently not to interfere with, say, the top6 and b) the
> field has settled enough for them to merge safely. Seeing the flag in
Nascar
> races is all about driving with your brain and showing some give and take
> among the drivers. If it backfires in one race, there's always the
> opportunity to keep that in mind in future. What comes around, goes
around.
> We understood eachother well (I think) this time. Larry didn't give me a
> hard time at a track he happens to be uncomfortable at... I'm sure he now
> expects the same of me.

> Jan.
> =---

> >> Well during the race i got wrecked 2 times, and mr. Simmons yells at me
for
> >> telling people not to slam on the brakes after a yellow flag. And I get
> >> criticized for not letting cars have their lap back even though they
are
> >> half a mile behind me. What the heck is going on today???

> >Just one of those days Fred..  Things just never really settled down and
> >it's a rough track for passing.  I wasnt very lucky either but managed
> >to hang in there, thanks in large part due to papy's dmg model :-)

> >I wouldnt mind going back to single file restarts myself.  It just makes
> >it *** for the top 2-5 when guys are ducking/darting for spots at the
> >restart.  Today clearly demonstrates this as we had somewhere near 5
> >cautions on restart laps..

> >Congrats Tim White. the dominator!!

> I disagree with the single file thing.  New Hampshire is simply a bad
> track for restarts when you have slower cars to the inside.  The
> problem is that you have to blast down the front straight and then
> slam on the brakes and everyone seemed to have different breaking
> points today.  I was probably being over aggressive on restarts
> because when I was starting 3rd or 4th I kept running up on the cars
> in front of me, but I was really being pressured from behind.  I will
> say this, lap down cars better make sure that they can hold a line
> going through the turn when you have lead lap cars on your outside.

> My apologies to John Simmons and whoever else I wrecked when I slammed
> on the brakes when the caution came out.  Tim was trying to be a nice
> guy and give a lap back and by the time I realized what he was doing I
> had to swerve to avoid him and then I tried NOT to gain a "cheap
> position" and also give a lap back by slowing abuptly and ended up
> causing a big mess.  Anyway, not one of my better days.  Congrats to
> Tim... some day I'm gonna figure out how to beat this guy... I may
> just have to punt him on the last lap or something. :)

> Brian Oster

> Ditto.  The lap cars problem was that the new guy wasn't proceeding
briskly
> enough off the line and was really causing a mess with lapped cars that
> were much faster that had the bad luck of being behind him - the one
> instance that really sticks out is the restart where mack was followed by
> dave and then myself, and Dave had to check-up to keep from punting mack,
> and I had to check-up to keep from punting Dave (but that did not
succeed).
> It didn't help either that cars on the lead lap were forcing a THREE-WIDE
> situation through turn 1 ( Brian :) ).

> Again, as I have stated in this thread all ready the whole thing was
> my fault for not paying attention.  I am sorry (and embarrassed) to
> have started this whole thing.  I did effectively block the track so
> you are right, but John probably just felt bad that he ran into the
> back of me at the time (even though it really wasn't his fault) and is
> probably why he fired off the comment.  Oh, apologies to Larry, I was
> wondering around aimlessly with my hood up over my roof and ran into
> larry... was not on purpose just was fumbling for the out of car
> camera view so I could make it back to the pits and park my destroyed
> hunk of shit.

> Brian Oster

> >no it wasnt your comment i was talking about... there was a yellow flag
> >where everyone just slowed down right after the line, and we who were in
the
> >back didnt know they were there, i slammed my brakes but couldnt stop in
> >time and bumped jan in the back, the whole track was clogged. I then said
> >"dont slam your brakes right after the finish line" and john told me to
shut
> >the *** up

> >NH is only a mile track... That would pretty much have put him on the
> >backstretch :)

> >For the record, John was nowhere near half a lap back.  He was right
behind
> >me and I was almost right behind you.  When I so parked the car in turn 4
to
> >give him ample room I thought for sure you'd see it on your F2 screen or
in
> >your mirror and back off.

> >So to be fair, it was me who made the 'mean' comment your referring to
not
> >John, sorry.  You just caught me by surprise which is my excuse for the
> >comment :)

> >But I did try to make it up by trying to give the next caution back to
John
> >by pretty much taking out the whole field so don't feel too bad for my
lack
> >of track awareness.

> >:)

>> However, I do have a bone to pick with Joon again, and for the same
>> reason
>> as last time.  He was making a concerted effort to keep me from passing
> him
>> even though I had the faster car, and even though I was MULITPLE laps
>> down
>> to his position.  Once again, I think it was bad form because he was
>> evidently trying to keep me between him and the car bhind me.

> joon does that every week every lap