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RASCAR: New Hampshire Incident Review posted.

Jan Verschuere

RASCAR: New Hampshire Incident Review posted.

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 02:50:17

I know it's short notice, but I didn't have time to go over the replay
earlier. It's on the forum.

Jan.
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Mitch_

RASCAR: New Hampshire Incident Review posted.

by Mitch_ » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 09:31:46

Not sure what car youre actually watching but I never did anyting even close
to your desciption of any of the incidents I was wrecked or involved..  Lap
40 and 59 and lap 91 which in hindsight may be right but not at the moment.
Hindsight is 20/20.  So in review I get wrecked 4 times and you somehow pass
blame of 3 directly on me then manage to skip where I was wrecked form
behind in a blatantly retarded move.  Hmmmm.  Maybe Ill skip the reviews
from now on Jan.  :/

Mitch


Jan Verschuere

RASCAR: New Hampshire Incident Review posted.

by Jan Verschuere » Mon, 28 Jul 2003 10:36:52

You must and should not forget that your experience of the race is slightly
different from what happens at server level and what the other competitors
experience. If everthing was perfect and real time I wouldn't be nagging
people into lifting regardless of whether they think they need to do so or
not.

Yes, I am looking at it with the benefit of hindsight and different camera
angles and all that. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!!! (sorry for shouting).

The idea is to sensetise<sp?> people to the perception limitations of the
sim "at the moment" and fine tune their sense of situational awareness to
make up for that. To get alarm bells ringing and to get situations to really
*feel* dangerous to a driver coming up behind, in order to get people to
keep themselves and others safe.

Ok, what lap and where? -I'll look at it. I try to get as broad a
perspective as possible but I can't possibly watch the entire replay from
everone's perspective in order not to miss anything.

I did not enter this venture to make myself popular with the other drivers.
I call it as I see it. You will notice I'm putting pressure on myself to not
start or get involved in wrecks because I do this review. I have to lead by
example in this respect and believe me, in view of how the last couple races
have gone, it's very hard not to say "to hell with it all" close my eyes and
keep my foot in it. Today, for example, no matter how well I drove, no
matter how considerate I was on the track and regardless of how hard I tried
to keep the racing green, a succession of "dimwits" managed to bring out
cautions negating any chance of me doing well in the race (regardless of
having to reconnect and losing 3 laps). That really pisses me off, knowing
I'm choosing to stay safe and avoid getting caught up in other people's
mistakes/misplaced enthousiasm, yet still suffering the consequences.

If you don't agree with my assesment, that's fine. You're welcome to argue
your point with me (that means more than just saying I was wrong, BTW). I'd
prefer for you to do that on the forum, but it's ok to disagree.

If you choose to ignore my opinion and not heed my advice, that's fine too.
It's your online reputation that's on the line, not mine.

Jan.
=---

Mitch_

RASCAR: New Hampshire Incident Review posted.

by Mitch_ » Tue, 29 Jul 2003 04:13:24



> "Mitch_A" wrote...
> > Not sure what car youre actually watching but I never did
> > anyting even close to your desciption of any of the
> > incidents I was wrecked or involved..

> You must and should not forget that your experience of the race is slightly
> different from what happens at server level and what the other competitors
> experience. If everthing was perfect and real time I wouldn't be nagging
> people into lifting regardless of whether they think they need to do so
or
> not.

> > Lap 40 and 59 and lap 91 which in hindsight may be right
> > but not at the moment. Hindsight is 20/20.

> Yes, I am looking at it with the benefit of hindsight and different camera
> angles and all that. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!!! (sorry for shouting).

> The idea is to sensetise<sp?> people to the perception limitations of the
> sim "at the moment" and fine tune their sense of situational awareness to
> make up for that. To get alarm bells ringing and to get situations to really
> *feel* dangerous to a driver coming up behind, in order to get people to
> keep themselves and others safe.

> > So in review I get wrecked 4 times and you somehow pass
> > blame of 3 directly on me then manage to skip where I
> > was wrecked form behind in a blatantly retarded move.

> Ok, what lap and where? -I'll look at it. I try to get as broad a
> perspective as possible but I can't possibly watch the entire replay from
> everone's perspective in order not to miss anything.

> > Hmmmm.  Maybe Ill skip the reviews from now on Jan.  :/

> I did not enter this venture to make myself popular with the other drivers.
> I call it as I see it. You will notice I'm putting pressure on myself to
not
> start or get involved in wrecks because I do this review. I have to lead
by
> example in this respect and believe me, in view of how the last couple races
> have gone, it's very hard not to say "to hell with it all" close my eyes
and
> keep my foot in it. Today, for example, no matter how well I drove, no
> matter how considerate I was on the track and regardless of how hard I tried
> to keep the racing green, a succession of "dimwits" managed to bring out
> cautions negating any chance of me doing well in the race (regardless of
> having to reconnect and losing 3 laps). That really pisses me off, knowing
> I'm choosing to stay safe and avoid getting caught up in other people's
> mistakes/misplaced enthousiasm, yet still suffering the consequences.

> If you don't agree with my assesment, that's fine. You're welcome to argue
> your point with me (that means more than just saying I was wrong, BTW).
I'd
> prefer for you to do that on the forum, but it's ok to disagree.

> If you choose to ignore my opinion and not heed my advice, that's fine too.
> It's your online reputation that's on the line, not mine.

> Jan.
> =---

It seems every week I have someone giving me shit for others messes, jumpin
starts or any number of BS circumstances that I cant control.  It really
gets old fast.  I rarely *** or moan about being wrecked yet every week
(nearly) someone has a *** with me about non-existent racing issues.

Twice during the said race wrecks happened directly in front of me and both
times I nearly locked the brakes and was dive passed on the apron preventing
me from avoiding the incident yet you say I didnt slow good enough.  The
incident where I was wrecked was near the end of the race as I was in 3rd
place and catching 2nd. I didnt even get a sry for that one which pissed
me off more than anything.

Honestly my "reputation" likely isnt  too good at this point anyway but I
could really care less.  Im here to race not make best friends.  

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