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Problem with ACT-LABS Force RS

Aubre

Problem with ACT-LABS Force RS

by Aubre » Sat, 18 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I saw something about that on their website.  It said a little squeak is
normal, and you shouldn't lubricate it.  It's something inside the motor.
The squeak might fade with time.

-A


LL

Problem with ACT-LABS Force RS

by LL » Sun, 19 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Hello,

Since this morning my Force RS is making a small metallic sound when I am
turning right, only right, if I turn left it is okay but when I turn right I
can hear this sound, like a rusted bicycle wheel, not very loud but
definitely here, the noise is mechanic because it is there when the wheel is
powered or not, in use (force) or not.

Should I open it and lubricate ? I know a lot of ACT-LABS people are looking
here and I would like their opinion.

Besides that the wheel still works fine but I don't want to break it so I am
a bit afraid to use it.

Thx

Jim Dombrowsk

Problem with ACT-LABS Force RS

by Jim Dombrowsk » Sun, 19 Mar 2000 04:00:00

I have the same problem so  I left them a voice mail and they replied right
away with an email. I was told this. I use headphone most times anyways , so
I'm ok with it.

JD

"It is not a sign of impending doom. The squeal you describe is coming from
the motor itself and is caused by the brushes moving and setting up an
oscillation against the commutator. It is similar to disc brake squeal in a
car. Unfortunately, there is no lubrication possible, since that would burn
up the commutator. One user has said that a shot of electronic contact
cleaner solves it, but that would be at your own risk and there is a danger
of using too much (washes out the lube from the bronze shaft bearing that
is nearby) or the wrong kind (you need the kind with no lube in it).

The noise can go away with more use as the brushes wear in further,
however, this is a slow process. Pretty much any FF wheel or joystick on
the market will do this at one time or another, since all use similar
motors (ours is larger, of course). Brushless motors of decent torque would
double the cost of the wheel."

"


>I saw something about that on their website.  It said a little squeak is
>normal, and you shouldn't lubricate it.  It's something inside the motor.
>The squeak might fade with time.

>-A



>> Hello,

>> Since this morning my Force RS is making a small metallic sound when I am
>> turning right, only right, if I turn left it is okay but when I turn
right
>I
>> can hear this sound, like a rusted bicycle wheel, not very loud but
>> definitely here, the noise is mechanic because it is there when the wheel
>is
>> powered or not, in use (force) or not.

>> Should I open it and lubricate ? I know a lot of ACT-LABS people are
>looking
>> here and I would like their opinion.

>> Besides that the wheel still works fine but I don't want to break it so I
>am
>> a bit afraid to use it.

>> Thx

(Raymond, ACT LABS

Problem with ACT-LABS Force RS

by (Raymond, ACT LABS » Wed, 22 Mar 2000 04:00:00

Hello,

NO!!! Don't open try to put more lubrication in it!  The answer about
the bushes is correct.  

Raymond



>I have the same problem so  I left them a voice mail and they replied right
>away with an email. I was told this. I use headphone most times anyways , so
>I'm ok with it.

>JD

>"It is not a sign of impending doom. The squeal you describe is coming from
>the motor itself and is caused by the brushes moving and setting up an
>oscillation against the commutator. It is similar to disc brake squeal in a
>car. Unfortunately, there is no lubrication possible, since that would burn
>up the commutator. One user has said that a shot of electronic contact
>cleaner solves it, but that would be at your own risk and there is a danger
>of using too much (washes out the lube from the bronze shaft bearing that
>is nearby) or the wrong kind (you need the kind with no lube in it).

>The noise can go away with more use as the brushes wear in further,
>however, this is a slow process. Pretty much any FF wheel or joystick on
>the market will do this at one time or another, since all use similar
>motors (ours is larger, of course). Brushless motors of decent torque would
>double the cost of the wheel."

>"

>>I saw something about that on their website.  It said a little squeak is
>>normal, and you shouldn't lubricate it.  It's something inside the motor.
>>The squeak might fade with time.

>>-A



>>> Hello,

>>> Since this morning my Force RS is making a small metallic sound when I am
>>> turning right, only right, if I turn left it is okay but when I turn
>right
>>I
>>> can hear this sound, like a rusted bicycle wheel, not very loud but
>>> definitely here, the noise is mechanic because it is there when the wheel
>>is
>>> powered or not, in use (force) or not.

>>> Should I open it and lubricate ? I know a lot of ACT-LABS people are
>>looking
>>> here and I would like their opinion.

>>> Besides that the wheel still works fine but I don't want to break it so I
>>am
>>> a bit afraid to use it.

>>> Thx

Raymond
ACT LABS
GTX_SlotCa

Problem with ACT-LABS Force RS

by GTX_SlotCa » Thu, 23 Mar 2000 04:00:00

You can get comm drops at your local hobby shop. It's used mostly on R/C and
slot car motors and won't catch fire. It helps seat the brushes and cleans
the comm and brushes.  But don't use it often. Oh, and I'm not recommending
that anyone use it at all, just that it's available and safe if not over
done.

Slot


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