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3D goggles

M Knor

3D goggles

by M Knor » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 07:35:49

Does anyone know of a pair of virtual reality type goggles that are sold for
PCs?
The ones I mean would be similar but much improved to those ones that were
used years ago with Amigas to put people in a virtual 3d world. Now that
would be great with a race sim or other 3d games. Turn your head to see
who's overtaking etc.
Thanks
B Bonne

3D goggles

by B Bonne » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 08:26:48



The E-dimensional 3D glasses (http://www.edimensional.com) are arguably the
best of the "affordable crop" at the moment. They have recently received
mostly favourable reviews in this forum -- do a google search for "E-
dimensional" on recent posts!

B Bonne

3D goggles

by B Bonne » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 08:29:00



Didn't read the last bit carefully! The E-dimensional glasses are "shutter-
type", which means the image is still generated by your CRT monitor. Thus,
no help with viewing what's going on around you...

jon

3D goggles

by jon » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 05:55:53

I came close to getting a pair of these til I read about the stereo 3d
effects in n2002 , which is mainly what I wanted it for. They say the
interior of the car is in 3d, but the track and everything outside of the
car is still 2d. Can anybody with a pair confirm this ?




> > Does anyone know of a pair of virtual reality type goggles that are
> > sold for PCs?
> > The ones I mean would be similar but much improved to those ones that
> > were used years ago with Amigas to put people in a virtual 3d world.
> > Now that would be great with a race sim or other 3d games. Turn your
> > head to see who's overtaking etc.
> > Thanks

> The E-dimensional 3D glasses (http://www.edimensional.com) are arguably
the
> best of the "affordable crop" at the moment. They have recently received
> mostly favourable reviews in this forum -- do a google search for "E-
> dimensional" on recent posts!

Bart Westr

3D goggles

by Bart Westr » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 06:59:30


Everything is 3D, but the***pit is a large proportion of the screen, and
very closeby. So the depth effect of the rest is not that much in
comparison. But it is all 3D.

Bart Westra

jon

3D goggles

by jon » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 08:40:34

how much better can you judge distance to the cars ahead of you (that is
mainly why I wanted to get those) ?




> > I came close to getting a pair of these til I read about the stereo 3d
> > effects in n2002 , which is mainly what I wanted it for. They say the
> > interior of the car is in 3d, but the track and everything outside of
the
> > car is still 2d. Can anybody with a pair confirm this ?

> Everything is 3D, but the***pit is a large proportion of the screen, and
> very closeby. So the depth effect of the rest is not that much in
> comparison. But it is all 3D.

> Bart Westra

Steve Smit

3D goggles

by Steve Smit » Sat, 06 Jul 2002 21:08:36

True, the***pit is heavily layered--3D--but not fully dimensional, more
like cardboard cutouts at different distances from the viewer.  The world
beyond the windshield is very two-dimensional...but that's realistic--you
don't get much stereoscopic info from anything more than 100 yards away in
real life either.  (Cars in your vicinity are quite dimensional.)  The same
thing happens in GPL, but when you run at a track like Monaco, where the
houses are nearby, you get a 3-dimensional effect.  The most startling 3D fx
are to be seen in rally games like Rally Championship, where the windshield
actually brushes low-hanging branches.  Also in some FPS games like
Counter-Strike and Ghost Recon.  It takes some getting used to, but overall,
the glasses are somewhere between a***tail-party trick and a useful
driving aid.  Like I said, for $70 you can't hardly go wrong.

--Steve Smith


> I came close to getting a pair of these til I read about the stereo 3d
> effects in n2002 , which is mainly what I wanted it for. They say the
> interior of the car is in 3d, but the track and everything outside of the
> car is still 2d. Can anybody with a pair confirm this ?





> > > Does anyone know of a pair of virtual reality type goggles that are
> > > sold for PCs?
> > > The ones I mean would be similar but much improved to those ones that
> > > were used years ago with Amigas to put people in a virtual 3d world.
> > > Now that would be great with a race sim or other 3d games. Turn your
> > > head to see who's overtaking etc.
> > > Thanks

> > The E-dimensional 3D glasses (http://www.racesimcentral.net/) are arguably
> the
> > best of the "affordable crop" at the moment. They have recently received
> > mostly favourable reviews in this forum -- do a google search for "E-
> > dimensional" on recent posts!

Bart Westr

3D goggles

by Bart Westr » Sun, 07 Jul 2002 23:03:50


Well the 3D stereo certainly looks more impressive and would be easier
perhaps for someone who is new to the game, but the normal image gives you
enough information with the size of the cars (smaller=farther away),
position relative to the surroundings and such.

If you want to judge distance or speed of cars far away, you need the
highest resolution you can get.

Bart

B Bonne

3D goggles

by B Bonne » Mon, 08 Jul 2002 03:44:37





>> how much better can you judge distance to the cars ahead of you (that
>> is mainly why I wanted to get those) ?

> Well the 3D stereo certainly looks more impressive and would be easier
> perhaps for someone who is new to the game, but the normal image gives
> you enough information with the size of the cars (smaller=farther
> away), position relative to the surroundings and such.

> If you want to judge distance or speed of cars far away, you need the
> highest resolution you can get.

> Bart

Yes, I think the distance judgement is something you learn to compensate
fully for without true 3D in a very short time. After all, people with only
one working eye don't go constantly bumping into things either... :)

Sometimes I like to drive with the added thrill of 3D, running low
resolution/high refresh rate. Sometimes I prefer to race with maxed-out
resolution and detail instead. (Sadly, F1 2002 has a very stupid and
cumbersome method for changing screen modes :/ )


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